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Originally posted by distant Another quite random track Oakenfold used to play is The Blackmaster - Solid Tube.

Yeah M.I.K.E. has used some strange structures in some of his older tracks.

more and more people make their own edits to tracks anyways so intro/outro length shouldn't be that important.

who cares.

dont follow a set pattern its boring. just build it how YOU think it sounds good

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i like the intro on prodigy - no good (start the dance), please make stuff like that, its not that hard for dj either.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike You really shouldn't give the slightest fuck what the DJ wants or is expecting. It's your track, do whatever you want with it.

+1
I find that most of track i like these day are not phrased normally. Doesnt matter what the dj think if he cant play it then he just lack the skill 2 do so

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If you're talking about intro before any beats come in it's always nice if it's phrased normally. The DJ can match the beats in the headphones then if they want easily throw the record on at the beginning to bring it in from the intro leading into the beats in a sweet transition. Sure a Dj could work with the record and know where he needs to start it for the mix, but shoot, if it works for the song keepin it normal is best for everyone. but if it's just better the way it is, go ahead and leave it. Usually intros are for set starts anyway. Mixing starts at the beat.

I see your concerns, but it's the DJ's job to make your music mesh with the last track, not yours.

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Originally posted by ohbeone If you're talking about intro before any beats come in it's always nice if it's phrased normally. The DJ can match the beats in the headphones then if they want easily throw the record on at the beginning to bring it in from the intro leading into the beats in a sweet transition. Sure a Dj could work with the record and know where he needs to start it for the mix, but shoot, if it works for the song keepin it normal is best for everyone. but if it's just better the way it is, go ahead and leave it. Usually intros are for set starts anyway. Mixing starts at the beat.

It's a hell lot harder if the intro have some kind of break/d&b beat going alongside before the 4x4 beat/verse kicks in, it could totally kick you off.

I don't really know what to say about this. In one way, if you don't even know much about phrasing, trying weird structures is most likely just going to be a waste of time, as it will make the track sound like shit. In another way, sometimes n00bs trying stuff they aren't "supposed to" gives them an original sound, and that's how music moves forward.

So just ignore this post.

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Originally posted by Palladium production forum guys

if this is the guy who i think it is (and i'm pretty sure it is), it hasn't stopped him on the otther 17 threads he's posted here asking how to make his track.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter if this is the guy who i think it is (and i'm pretty sure it is), it hasn't stopped him on the otther 17 threads he's posted here asking how to make his track.

fuck! i remember that now! the guy is either insane or a troll

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike You really shouldn't give the slightest fuck what the DJ wants or is expecting. It's your track, do whatever you want with it.

Plus one.
Dj's are given way too much credit for their work in comparison to the artists that make what they're playing. Making changes based on Dj's preferences would be a bit much.

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