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Originally posted by josh4 I'm curious whos fault you think that is. Perhaps the scientists from peer reviewed journals that follow the Gore-mind-hive? Good god, hes behind it all!

There was never any doubt that this wasn't going to happen overnight so it's nobody's 'fault' other than those with Western knat-like attention spans...

/damn ADD generation...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer So you are prepare to stay in Iraq for another 50 years or more and you dont mind having more people to die and suffer and not mention money being wasted simply because "it is going to take a lot of time to fix the place"?

Dood...look at my flag.
I'm in CAN-A-DA.
And on top of that we're in AF-GHAN-IS-TAN.

We didn't break the fuckin' place but those that did better damn well stay until it's fixed!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r We didn't break the fuckin' place but those that did better damn well stay until it's fixed!

The assumption is, Iraq becomes a better place by occupation. But this can not be because the US after 5 years has not been able to stabilize Iraq. Even with this surge which has failed to bring stability, how do you expect Iraq to stabilize with more occupation?

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Originally posted by Krypton The assumption is, Iraq becomes a better place by occupation. But this can not be because the US after 5 years has not been able to stabilize Iraq. Even with this surge which has failed to bring stability, how do you expect Iraq to stabilize with more occupation?

I'm not sure why there is any assumption.
They knew before they went in there they would be stuck there until the Iraqis decide they want to run their country.
What wasn't known (obviously) was how long it was going to take for the Iraqis to actually make that decision.
It's painful to see that this country doesn't seem to have any sense of self worth and likes being lead by the nose by who ever is currently running the place. The U.S. has simply become stuck being the next baby sitter...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I'm not sure why there is any assumption. They knew before they went in there they would be stuck there until the Iraqis decide they want to run their country. What wasn't known (obviously) was how long it was going to take for the Iraqis to actually make that decision. It's painful to see that this country doesn't seem to have any sense of self worth and likes being lead by the nose by who ever is currently running the place. The U.S. has simply become stuck being the next baby sitter...

Exactly, so why should the US stay and "fix things" as you said? Rectifying the problem is withdrawing from the country and ending the occupation.

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Originally posted by Krypton Exactly, so why should the US stay and "fix things" as you said? Rectifying the problem is withdrawing from the country and ending the occupation.

Read what I posted above.

Ending the occupation may only begin the real genocide.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Read what I posted above. Ending the occupation may only begin the real genocide.

Exactly.

As much shit as the U.S. is putting up with by being there, it would have been way worse from a world perspective having done a hit and run on an entire country.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r It's painful to see that this country doesn't seem to have any sense of self worth and likes being lead by the nose by who ever is currently running the place. The U.S. has simply become stuck being the next baby sitter...

hmmm so now we are going to blame the Iraqi's for this mess? You do know that President Maleki is in power because of the U.S. aka another puppet.

Now you want us to feel sorry for the U.S for being stuck there? lol

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Exactly. As much shit as the U.S. is putting up with by being there, it would have been way worse from a world perspective having done a hit and run on an entire country.

ok so then whats the solution?if the U.S leave they'll kill eachother.If the U.S stays they'll kill eachother as well.
Are you saying IF the U.S stays they ll kill eachother less so somehow thats better?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Dood...look at my flag. I'm in CAN-A-DA. And on top of that we're in AF-GHAN-IS-TAN.

and my god I feel so safe knowing our troops are there fighting for our freedom.

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We didn't break the fuckin' place but those that did better damn well stay until it's fixed!

Staying there wont do much either,look at the last 5 years.any progress?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer hmmm so now we are going to blame the Iraqi's for this mess? You do know that President Maleki is in power because of the U.S. aka another puppet. Now you want us to feel sorry for the U.S for being stuck there? lol

Who said anything about feeling sorry for the U.S.?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ok so then whats the solution?if the U.S leave they'll kill eachother.If the U.S stays they'll kill eachother as well. Are you saying IF the U.S stays they ll kill eachother less so somehow thats better?

Maybe you missed Lebezniatnikov's post above somehow?

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