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urban_legend
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Awesome review! Sounds like a trip! Those Germans. I tell yah.


Did alot of people speak English? How was your German?


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musicsnob_NOT
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
TRESOR

When we finally found the entrance into Room 1, we opened the door to see a pitch black hallway, with very dim orange lights lining the wall (which in my opinion were only to make the hallway eerier looking; not to provide any light). Now, just to put this in perspective, imagine being in a foreign country, in an abandoned power plant, you open the door to the main room, and all you see is a pitch black hallway, and all you hear is serious techno banging at the other end. Needless to say, I was a bit nervous. We started walking down the hall cautiously, when a German girl noticed us and said, "Don't let it scare you! Keep going!", to which I jokingly replied, "You already have". We reached the end of the tunnel, where there was a bit of red lighting (kind of reminded me a bit of Aria), turned around, and saw the main floor.


There was one point where Graham and I were sitting at the side of the main dance floor and the lights, pounding music and the crowd was one of the most intense feelings I have ever experienced in a club. We both felt it and had to leave that area.

If this works, here is a video of the walk into the main room of Tresor. I was not walking slow, and the darkness is captured well on the video.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10878819662

Tresor turned around our week in Berlin. We were having a great time, but were disappointed (pissed off actually) that we weren't able to get into some of the clubs. This actually turned out to be the best since I can't imagine a trip to Berlin without going to Tresor now.


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great review yet again!!!

the club sounds would looooove to check it out one of these days!

Old Post Apr-17-2008 22:12  Croatia
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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)
Arrow OK, so here are my thoughts:

a) I WANT TO GO TO THIS PLACE -SO BADLY- !!!

b)
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
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As soon as I walked in, I turned to my right and saw 3 rather attractive, but slightly sketchy looking 19-21 year old girls wearing nothing but underwear/lingerie.

Incredible. Awesome. Seriously, I need to go here. lol.

c)
quote:

There was however a really cool painting going along the back wall, and a large 1.5mx2.5m picture of a vagina on the wall. Interesting...

I hope you took a picture of it! I wanna see it.

d)
quote:

Also, there was a small hallway on one side of the place with what can only be described as human sized cubby holes and compartments (more on that later).

Love it! Human sized cubby holes/compartments and an orgy room! Sounds like a fantastic club to bring your girl too! I'd have a blast, I have on doubt.

e)
quote:

on the way upstairs, some guy just came up to Jay and I,

... "came up to Jay and ME" (sorry, I had to Grahamers! )

f)
quote:

- People getting blowjobs and having full on sex in the cubby holes and other random corners

How many were chicks giving blowjobs to guys?? (as opposed to guys giving to guys, as I'm assuming the vast majority would have been...)
How much of the sexual fornification you saw was girl-girl, guy-guy, and girl-guy (simple ratios, only, please )

g)
quote:

- 2 girls making out for literally 40 minutes straight (I actually timed it) with heavy petting (making out with heavy petting was increasing as the morning went on, even though Panorama Bar is not really that dark at all, putting you in full view of everyone else)

LEGEND! SIMPLY INCREDIBLE. I wish to the HIGH HEAVENS AND HELLS that I'd witness this fist-hand myself!
Wow... that moment would have been made for me, I swear!

h)
quote:

- Some guy "dancing" beside us who had his eyes closed for around 30-40 minutes straight.

This is -VERY- hard to do... trust me... I've tried many times at the Zone, KH, and Footwork. Its a fantastic experience though if you pull it off. Darkness is nice... keeping your balance in a pushy crowd is difficult though, so it's not something I'd recommended usually trying when out dancing at a packed venue.

i)
quote:

- A random girl offering me a "shower" with her bottle of water, and then 50EUR to "guard her boot while she went to go get drinks" (she actually had her boot off and her 50EUR in her hand)

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fucking BEST thing I read the WHOLE review! I smiled and laughed my ass off out loud for real. Just had my mngr come into my office asking me what was so funny! I shit you not.
Brilliant. Result! hahahaha...

... so... DID YOU DO IT GRAHAM? LOL!


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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Orko
What an awesome review. You really have a way of creating a story and journey to follow, I was hoping it kept going, just so I would have more to read.



Absolutely.

I have simply NEVER read reviews as excellent, captivating, interesting, thorough and "all encompassing" as yours, Graham.

You have written ALL of the best reviews I have ever read on this site.

You are quite certainly, in my opinion, simply UNMATCHED by leaps and bounds in what you create for the reader of your reviews.

Massive respective (and A LOT of jealously too... You make the writer in me proud and envious of your talent at the same time!)


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musicsnob_NOT
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

Berghain/Panaroma Bar
OK, I am not really know for writing reviews like Graham and usually I am happy enough to simply sum up a party with good friends, good music, good times. Our night/day at Berghain made such an impression that I feel it deserves a full on review since I do think it should be experienced by many of my friends here on TA.
When I had made the decision to make the trip to Germany for Time Warp to meet up with Graham, Paul, and Kate I decided I would stay in Europe for a week to travel. After talking with Graham we decided we would head to Berlin for the week…in all honesty I really didn’t have much of a desire to visit Berlin but figured why not it had a lot of history and we would already be in Berlin. Once the decision was made to go to Berlin I started to look into what we could do when we were there and I remembered reading about this place that was suppose to be like CZ in Berlin…after some research I discovered it was called Berghain. The more I read about this place the more intrigued I became and it soon became the event I was looking forward to the most about the trip (even more so than Time Warp).
For those of you interested here are some links to the articles I read that got me so hyped up for this place.
Website - http://www.berghain.de/berghain/pro...l/programm.html - it is in German but check out their flyers at the least
System install – some of the better pictures on the internet http://www.funktion-one.com/Berghain_Germany_Mondo.htm
This is a link to a place where you can read a pile of reviews and you can read lots of stories about people being turned away - http://www.berlin-life.com/drink/pu..._&_Panorama_Bar
Below is a quote from an article which sums up Berghain quite well.
Beyond its lineups, Berghain is famous for two things: Its space and its libertinism. Housed in a disused power plant, the Berghain complex is an intimidating, post-industrial behemoth boasting a cavernous main room; the more intimate Panoramabar upstairs; cement floors, ceiling, walls and staircases; and dark, meandering passageways and cubbyholes, which unlike their counterparts in the United States, offer zones of total autonomy. Everything is dark; cameras are strictly verboten. (There are also no mirrors in the toilets, a crucial point in facilitating the club's endurance-testing marathon sessions: you might be more inclined to go home if you could see how fucked you looked.)
The basement boasts a "darkroom" space explicitly dedicated to sexual activity, but you hardly need to go that far to find satisfaction, if that's what you seek: Virtually every corner of the club, from the bathrooms to the dancefloor, might serve as a good spot for a tryst. Berghain's reputation for excess is hardly a secret: Even the New York Times style writer and cultural critic Guy Trebay described "live sex taking place on the dance floor beneath the colossal Wolfgang Tillmans photograph at the Berghain disco." (For anyone wanting to understand the full Berghain experience, the disco DJ Daniel Wang's 2004 report of the Panoramabar's reopening is essential and inspiring reading.) But to view Berghain only in sensationalistic terms, as an anything-goes pleasurezone of sex and drugs, is to miss the greater significance of the operation.
Here is the link to the whole article - http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/artic...month-in-techno
I also highly recommend reading the review they mention above (it is very long but it is amazing).

As Graham wrote we did everything we thought we should to get in and in the end we were simply told to step to the left when we got to the front of the line (along with 2 guys in front of us, 4 girls behind us, and 2 other guys behind them). I realized all of the other people were together and told Graham to hang around for a bit until they left. Once we got in we both felt as if it was a privilege to have been let in and for the longest time we both felt we could get a tap on our shoulders and be told to leave.
Once walking in the first thing you see is a huge mural that is etched into the stone (or glass) that immediately makes you feel overwhelmed. The bottom floor has a lot of stone seats and the length of the room is probably close to the size of Guvernment with the said dark room to one end. At the other end by the coat check is the stairs up to the second level (Berghain). In this section there is not second floor so the ceiling goes right up to the top of the building which must be at least 100 feet (30 meters for you Graham). Standing there looking up again you feel overwhelmed by the sheer size of this place.
When you get up to the main floor you suddenly realize that they do not use most of the space. There is more unused space in the club than space that is used. As Graham said we saw the 3 (anorexic chic) young girls dancing on the podium in their underwear…I relaxed a bit because I had feared that Graham may be overwhelmed by the gayness of the club. In fact despite everything we had read and although the club is probably 70% gay it never feels like a gay club because everyone is just doing their own thing and not imposing themselves on others.
Berghain, the main floor is dark, loud, and very smokey (the Germans sure love their smoke machines). We searched out the washroom and headed off there. The stalls in Berghain are pitch black, there is no light, it is scary the first time in there. We later observed that there seemed to be an unwritten rule in Berghain…YOU WILL NOT ENTER A WASHROOM STALL ALONE…YOU MUST BE WITH AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERSON…PREFERABLY 2.
We then went up to Panaroma Bar which is the third floor and the first thing you notice is how bright the room is and that brings a completely different atmosphere to the party. I honestly didn’t think much of this place when we first went up, but as Graham said it ended up being the place to be. The shades being opened and closed when the sun is out and people’s reactions is something special that needs to be experienced.
Music wise Graham summed it up perfectly…Jesse Rose was really good (I talked to him after his set and he commented how bad the set at Circa was and how upset he was that they had closed down the room so early, but he did say he wanted to come back and play some of the other clubs here in Toronto he has heard about)…he finished his set at 6AM and he was still there having fun by the bar at 2PM.
Renato Cohen was exactly what I wanted to hear at that time on the main floor and I was having a blast while Graham was walking around. Graham then came up to me and told me to come upstairs as the room was now going off. That was the understatement of the year thus far. The place was going crazy, everyone was dancing, hugging, singing along to total cheese. It was perfect. We stayed up in Panaroma Bar for the rest of the night as I couldn’t drag myself away despite everything that I had read about Berghain. We stayed until 4PM although I was tempted to stick around until it closed at 8PM just to say we did, but we couldn’t have asked for a better 14 hours at a party.
I had thought DC10 was the best party I had been to and it was amazing with all of its characters. The big difference between DC10 and Berghain with its characters is that you get the feeling that people at DC10 dress up and joke around when they go there. The people at Berghain aren’t dressing up and wearing masks…this is their everyday life.
Random Thoughts
- Huge art work in Panaroma including a 4’x8’ vagina
- Random hug from blonde German as he came up the stairs
- Just because you wear a shirt that says “super cute” doesn’t mean you are super cute
- Trannies of all shapes, sizes, and ages
- The worst trannies I have ever seen (hairy chest, arms, boobs the size of watermelons)
- Seeing a guy in a cubby hole from at least 5am until 2pm…I honestly started to think he was dead since he just wasn’t moving
- No security
- More scarves of guys in one location
- German interpretive dance is funny
- The best staches I have ever seen in my life…I think Graham and I have seen the best possible porn stache
- Guy short circuiting and falling down against a wall but tried to cover it up by pretending he was dancing and pumping his hands in the air
- Sex acts do happen but people don’t put it in your face
- Really young girls…who wear Anne of Green Gables sweaters
- Sketch can be fun in the light
- Bar stools on the dance floor
- Drinking all night…people were getting Jager shots at 3PM
- Full on espresso machine…not an automatic push a button machine…grind your own beans, pound in down, heat up the milk, here is your late…at 3PM
- Germans still use a lot of vinyl
- Nick Höppner was great, but needs to have a cigarette in his mouth or he train wrecks from nicotine withdrawal (he was amazing but had a smoke in his mouth the whole time other than the one train wreck)
- Lots of facial piercings (especially septum piercings)
- No security guards
- No last call is a good thing

For me Berghain ended up being the highlight of my 12 days in Germany with Graham despite going to Time Warp and Tresor. I would love to go back again and if at all possible I will. The only scary part is that you always risk not getting in. I have so much more to say about this place so just ask me when you see me out.


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musicsnob_NOT
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Re: OK, so here are my thoughts:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
a) I WANT TO GO TO THIS PLACE -SO BADLY- !!!

b)

Incredible. Awesome. Seriously, I need to go here. lol.

c)

I hope you took a picture of it! I wanna see it.

d)

Love it! Human sized cubby holes/compartments and an orgy room! Sounds like a fantastic club to bring your girl too! I'd have a blast, I have on doubt.

e)

... "came up to Jay and ME" (sorry, I had to Grahamers! )

f)

How many were chicks giving blowjobs to guys?? (as opposed to guys giving to guys, as I'm assuming the vast majority would have been...)
How much of the sexual fornification you saw was girl-girl, guy-guy, and girl-guy (simple ratios, only, please )

g)

LEGEND! SIMPLY INCREDIBLE. I wish to the HIGH HEAVENS AND HELLS that I'd witness this fist-hand myself!
Wow... that moment would have been made for me, I swear!

h)

This is -VERY- hard to do... trust me... I've tried many times at the Zone, KH, and Footwork. Its a fantastic experience though if you pull it off. Darkness is nice... keeping your balance in a pushy crowd is difficult though, so it's not something I'd recommended usually trying when out dancing at a packed venue.

i)

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fucking BEST thing I read the WHOLE review! I smiled and laughed my ass off out loud for real. Just had my mngr come into my office asking me what was so funny! I shit you not.
Brilliant. Result! hahahaha...

... so... DID YOU DO IT GRAHAM? LOL!


honestly...and no offense here but your replys to Grahams post are EXACTLY the type of people they try to keep out of this place.


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller

and downstairs was techno, that got a bit too fast and banging for us by the end


What! Haha-- NOT POSSIBLE!


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Jem_hadar
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Re: Re: OK, so here are my thoughts:

quote:
Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
honestly...and no offense here but your replys to Grahams post are EXACTLY the type of people they try to keep out of this place.


I -really- hope I get in then one day then, Jay!

(A front will have to be set up to keep to keep those who control the gates unawares...)


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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: on the other side

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
You really have a way of creating a story and journey to follow, I was hoping it kept going, just so I would have more to read.



Graham, you really do have a way with words. That was an amazing review.
I feel the same way as Bobby and wanted more to read... lol

That is a freaky video too Jay. Wow! I think I would be slightly nervous but anxious for the outcome all at the same time.

It is too bad that one always runs the risk of not getting in, but I would love to definitely make it to those clubs to experience it for myself.


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quote:
Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
There was one point where Graham and I were sitting at the side of the main dance floor and the lights, pounding music and the crowd was one of the most intense feelings I have ever experienced in a club. We both felt it and had to leave that area.

If this works, here is a video of the walk into the main room of Tresor. I was not walking slow, and the darkness is captured well on the video.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10878819662

Tresor turned around our week in Berlin. We were having a great time, but were disappointed (pissed off actually) that we weren't able to get into some of the clubs. This actually turned out to be the best since I can't imagine a trip to Berlin without going to Tresor now.


this vid needs to be an extra minute long to show the atmosphere in the club!!
looks so sick.

I have to hit germany next year! I have to!

Techno parties, grimmey building, sickkkk

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The video link actually works...cool...I have some others from inside the club...will upload


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