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Originally posted by revitalizedbeat i have all the radio 1 passed shows :P

i do to, its call TMB

ya its 103.7-2 but i have no way of checking it out w/o hd radio
i despise radio here in SD but if this station was worth it, i would consider gettin the hd radio
i don't think xm/serius is worth it
so anyone else have hd radio? (yes i realize it is a shit gimmic, i just want to know about this station)

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Why do people think hd radio is a gimick? Maybe I'm totally missing something but I've been following the development of hd radio for at least 4 years now and I think hd radio will be a step in the right direction... If anything we should embrace this new technology that provides better sounding/quality audio and allows for a diverse market and healthy competition. Having 2 companies (soon to be 1) control the entire satellite radio market is not good for US the listeners!

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Originally posted by TheMETHOD Why do people think hd radio is a gimick? Maybe I'm totally missing something but I've been following the development of hd radio for at least 4 years now and I think hd radio will be a step in the right direction... If anything we should embrace this new technology that provides better sounding/quality audio and allows for a diverse market and healthy competition. Having 2 companies (soon to be 1) control the entire satellite radio market is not good for US the listeners!

HD radio is expensive from what I know, which is why alot of people think it's not worth it. but if car manufacturers start adding HD radios instead of regular radios in their new production cars noone would mind.

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Having 2 companies (soon to be 1) control the entire satellite radio market is not good for US the listeners!

satellite radio is competing with regular radio, one that is free. isn't that competition enough? also none of the satellite radios are profitable businesses so far, so what are they competing for? losses? merging them both together gives them the opportunity to really compete against other radios. if the business becomes profitable, someone else would jump in to compete against them in satellite radio format

double post, i are stupid

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it's not really a gimmick per se, but it is expensive and rarely give you much extra
i am sure in the near future they will start coming standard on vehicles and stations will expand over time but for now it doesn't seem to offer much, but you don't pay a monthly fee so you can't expect too much

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if it wasnt for the FCC pushing HD radio like CRAZY, it would be the Beta of radio



I dont think it will do well, satellite has more choices a bigger band no commercials and available EVERYWHERE.

Regular radio is going into crap, the stations aren't getting profits from sponsors and advertisers because no one is listening anymore. Everyone is getting satellite radio or just running there ipod's 24/7 with music podcasts etc.

The only radio stations that are thriving a lot are the Spanish stations (why do u think there are more and more). But us Mexicans are always late getting into things

I compare it a lot to TV, where everyone will have cable TV and only a handful will be using antenna's receiving the local TV signals. Well maybe not that far of an extent but you can see what i mean...

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Originally posted by Nerologic if it wasnt for the FCC pushing HD radio like CRAZY, it would be the Beta of radio I dont think it will do well, satellite has more choices a bigger band no commercials and available EVERYWHERE. Regular radio is going into crap, the stations aren't getting profits from sponsors and advertisers because no one is listening anymore. Everyone is getting satellite radio or just running there ipod's 24/7 with music podcasts etc. The only radio stations that are thriving a lot are the Spanish stations (why do u think there are more and more). But us Mexicans are always late getting into things I compare it a lot to TV, where everyone will have cable TV and only a handful will be using antenna's receiving the local TV signals. Well maybe not that far of an extent but you can see what i mean...

there are more than 300 million americans and less than 20 million satellite radio subscribers. radios revenues are declining not because of satellite radio but technology overall. blame it on more radio stations with niche targets, ipods, cell phones. people listened to radio in their homes back in the days but can you imagine someone listening to radio in their home?

i used to listen to radio when i was in school in boulder and they had a dance(ish) station but i despise radio here. i even made more cds and wasn't as lazy as i am now where i can't even bring myself to change the music out on my ipod to listen to in the car

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People like to make the argument that satellite radio subscribers are somehow a different group of people than regular radio listeners, I strongly disagree! People subscribe to satellite radio for 2 main reasons 1) the programming is better or 2) the quality and reception is better. thats it! They are ultimately the same people, they just can't find what they are looking for on FM so they pay for satellite radio service because (at least for now) satellite radio is struggling and so they are working hard to keep listeners happy.

Let's flash back for a moment to when cable tv was just getting started because I think that is a perfect example. Huge infrastructure expenses putting cables under every street and connecting every house. At that time everyone got their channels with a tv antenna. People couldn't imagine paying for cable. the cable companies targeted people in poor reception areas so those were the first subscribers, also at that time cable promoted their service as ad-free programming with premium channels loaded with movies, surely people would pay for better quality and no ads. People did, and now years later over the air television is dead, if you want to watch tv you have to subscribe to cable or satellite tv service both of which are loaded with dozens of ads per hour AND over 90% of the content is garbage! So bad infact that people now pay for another subscription to TiVO just to filter through the junk! LOL!

Personally I have no attachment to HD Radio, I would support any improved FREE radio broadcast technology. I just think that we all should look at what we're getting ourselves into when we willingly agree to subscribe to dozens of services that over time offer less services and end up costing way more than they should!

What I would really like to see is better wireless internet coverage, then we can all listen to internet radio in the car and STFU! it's 2008 for crying out loud!

I should add though that even though satellite radio and FM compete for the same listeners it is incorrect to assume that means the satellite radio merger is good for us the listeners. No matter how you spin it one satellite radio company IS a monopoly, it will only result in higher subscription costs and/or less service.

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Originally posted by TheMETHOD What I would really like to see is better wireless internet coverage, then we can all listen to internet radio in the car and STFU! it's 2008 for crying out loud!

your wish has come true cause now you can install high speed modems in your car. i saw a brief clip about it on cnbc less than 2 weeks ago.

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I should add though that even though satellite radio and FM compete for the same listeners it is incorrect to assume that means the satellite radio merger is good for us the listeners. No matter how you spin it one satellite radio company IS a monopoly, it will only result in higher subscription costs and/or less service.

like i said and you also said, satellite radio is still a radio and competing with other stations. so i dont really see it as monopoly looking at the sector but i understand your point of view as well. here's a better way to look at it: both sirius and xm are operating on profit losses. Merging will give them a good chance to compete with other radio stations who then become more innovative as well. so the merger will make competition fiercer which will better off your listening. and whenever the satellite radio business becomes profitable, other media giants will also create their own satellite radio.

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Originally posted by Nerologic i do to, its call TMB

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