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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

Yes, i thing that the digital download services definitely makes a customer to be less picky about his/her choices, possibly adopting a "why not?" attitude. I also always wander about the value of such a digital collection. I mean, you buy just another bleepy minimal MP3 track and store it in your hard-drive with another 10000 bleepy minimal MP3 downloads, only to end-up with a useless collection of MP3s which no-one is gonna here and appreciate it, except for yourself and the few times you gonna play it on the dancefloor, until the new bleepy, minimal track is out. Quite stupid really. Buying a rare vinyl e.p. with those 3 OMG legendary tracks is something substantial (having a "real record collection" which someone may hear sometine), to have a bloody hard-drive full of MP3s is a waste of money. Plastic music, for the plastic djs, in our plastic times. IMO a very bad-time to be an EDM DJ/Producer really.

Old Post Apr-19-2008 15:32  Greece
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Trance-M
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Yes, i thing that the digital download services definitely makes a customer to be less picky about his/her choices, possibly adopting a "why not?" attitude. I also always wander about the value of such a digital collection. I mean, you buy just another bleepy minimal MP3 track and store it in your hard-drive with another 10000 bleepy minimal MP3 downloads, only to end-up with a useless collection of MP3s which no-one is gonna here and appreciate it, except for yourself and the few times you gonna play it on the dancefloor, until the new bleepy, minimal track is out. Quite stupid really. Buying a rare vinyl e.p. with those 3 OMG legendary tracks is something substantial (having a "real record collection" which someone may hear sometine), to have a bloody hard-drive full of MP3s is a waste of money. Plastic music, for the plastic djs, in our plastic times. IMO a very bad-time to be an EDM DJ/Producer really.


Hmmmm, when I count up the amount of money I spent on compilation cd's the past 18 years (I'm 33) and I look at them I also think most have been a waste of money. To me it doesn't matter if the are on a harddrive, vinyl or cd.
With compilations you always buy a lot of tracks you don't like. So then "First listen, then buy" on internet sounds great to me. You only pay for what you really like. That's how I see it. But I can imagine some people would buy tracks sooner because it's so easy. Maybe 18 years ago I also would have done this when it was available. Always easy looking back...


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richg101
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Registered: Apr 2005
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Sorry, but that's retarded.


kunt you. a retardation renders you unable to carry out basic human functions, such as type on a keyboard in a legible fashion. a retard wouldnt even be attempting to comment on an internet forum -
the activity is way beyond a what a retarded mind is capable of comprehending..

you my friend, are a pure, unadulterated kunt


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Sorry, but that's fucking stupid.

fixed.

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RJT
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Re: Effect of digital downloads on track selection?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles

Do the ease and low cost of downloads influence DJs and regular music buyers to be significantly less discriminating about what they buy (and perhaps also about what they eventually play out)?


Short answer for me would probably be "yes" - the fact of the matter is that I buy a immensely larger quantity of music now than I did before, and by virtue of that increase alone it's clear for me to see that I buy a lot of stuff I either never end up playing, or end up playing once and deciding is horrible.

I do, however, think the positive aspect of this for me is that it allows me to continue to entertain myself, and not just worry about playing what I know will get a reaction from an audience. Sometimes I fail utterly and completely, but the nights where a bunch of new tunes that I'm not even entirely sure about come together properly, it's a pretty great feeling. Of course, the flipside of this is that on those nights, tracks that aren't that great but you took a chance on buying and playing, and wound up working well, may have just worked because of that night.

So I guess a simplistic answer to the above is that in general, I am less discriminating about what I purchase, but I still think I'm pretty careful about what I actually choose to play. In this sense, I really look at DD's as a positive thing, but definitely hear the choir singing "So much shit, so much shit!" day in and day out.


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Re: Effect of digital downloads on track selection?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Do the ease and low cost of downloads influence DJs and regular music buyers to be significantly less discriminating about what they buy (and perhaps also about what they eventually play out)?


Not in my case as I'm super picky with what I consider good music, and as I'm not a DJ and don't need to buy shitloads of trendy tracks to please an hypothetical public. So I buy whatever is really good to me whether it's house/techno/electro/downtempo. When buying, I'm quick to discard generic stuff, and even for the good non generic stuff I wonder myself if I'll still like it in a few years. Most of the time I let the track sit in the crate for a few days before eventually buying them.

The problem is that in general people are not enough picky. To me the music has to be really special so I consider to buy it. Just being a good or OK track is not enough.

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samhouse
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not at all.

I am still very picky about what i buy off digital sites. Sometimes songs go into my checkout lists...get listened to a week later and get taken off.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

I'm going to contradict the general consensus of this thread.

I've only ever bought CD, and there isn't much price difference between CD and MP3. If Beatport are charging £1.29 or whatever stupid number it is for a single track, a three track single would be just under £4, and a ten track album would be just under £13. There isn't a price difference between MP3 and CD, as far as I'm concerned.

As such, if anything I buy more carefully when I buy MP3, because I can cut out the crap. If you buy a single, there's likely to be at least one mix on there that you don't like, and so I simply won't buy it. From a DJ perspective, MP3 allows you to cut out the crap and so you can spend 100% of your money on music you like, rather than 60% the mixes you're after and 40% mixes you don't like.

It should be pointed out that this doesn't apply to albums and mixed compilations. I'll always buy the complete thing because track that is weak in isolation might play an important part in a mix or holistic album. I almost never buy albums in MP3 form though.

If you used to play vinyl, I can see why MP3s would encourage you to buy more mediocre stuff, but I'd argue the inverse is true for CDJs or people who simply listen to CDs only.


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As someone mentioned on the GU boards...

Negative of digital is that you can't flip over your mp3 years later to find an absolute gem B side.


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Originally posted by siastyle
Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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weymouth
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Delaware

The problem with digital downloads and track selection is that there isn't as much word of mouth and that social interaction people had at the local record stores in the local scenes. Now days big DJs pretty much have to have a staff to sift through all the junk that gets uploaded to a ftp server. There's no way some DJs have the time with all the gigs they play to make fresh playlists so unfortunately they just grab tunes off the same labels they've been playing for the past 2 years.

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Stef
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I really regret getting into EDM just as the CDJ was on the rise and vinyl was on the decline, couple that with the only good record shop that i knew of closed after i bought my second purchase there.


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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

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Originally posted by Stef De Roux
I really regret getting into EDM just as the CDJ was on the rise and vinyl was on the decline, couple that with the only good record shop that i knew of closed after i bought my second purchase there.


i'm the opposite. i find it heartbreaking the amount of money i could have saved if i'd waited 2 more years & not bought technics ;/

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