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Gen3r4l1ty
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Registered: Jun 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by jsibilin
try to smoke less than a gram a day.. theres been studies (can't find the source) that if u smoke less than a gram its actually good for you releasing serotonin into the brain.. if you smoke more than a gram and are a heavy user then its bad.


I'd say that's a flawed stat. Too much variance between potency of strains.


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Re: longterm weed smoking and self control

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Originally posted by LionsLair
Does longterm weed use make one more relaxed or more schizo? Do people who smoke for long tenures find themselves more relaxed than they were before they started smoking regularly, or more fidgety and paranoid, less controlling of onself. Someone who is Bipolar or has ADHD would it benefit them to smoke weed?


The general sense is, weed won't turn you schizo just becuase you smoke it. You have to be predisposed to mental disorder, or already have one. Examples being, having a family history of mental illness. In that case, you should not smoke. But for the majority of us level-headed folks, no worries...


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stren
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never was a problem for me,
when I was unemployed I used to get baked regularly, Didn't have self control problems when got a job. I still smoke now and then


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KilldaDJ
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fuck weed, it makes u stupid and lazy. fair enough if u smoke a joint at the end of the day to chill out or whatever but hardcore users are just morons (no offense)


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Gen3r4l1ty
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fuck weed, it makes u stupid and lazy. fair enough if u smoke a joint at the end of the day to chill out or whatever but hardcore users are just morons (no offense)

Cant that be said about most recreational drugs, alcohol included?


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fuck weed, it makes u stupid and lazy. fair enough if u smoke a joint at the end of the day to chill out or whatever but hardcore users are just morons (no offense)


its not true that weed makes you lazy

it makes you realize its not worth the fucking effort

- Bill Hicks


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KilldaDJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
Cant that be said about most recreational drugs, alcohol included?


yeah it applys to all drugs but we aint talking about alcohol. for example, have you ever seen a hyper stoned person? they are all mellow and shit from the weed. they call it dope for a reason.

some drugs are stimulants, some are depressants, some are dissassosatives(?) each drug has an unique property, attribute if you may.

drugs are only good for college and university lol

i'll just stick to a few cans every now and then, got too much shit to deal with being stoned, rolling, munted on whatever lol


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Long-term, heavy drug use of almost any type tends to narrow people's horizons -- it makes them focus more on the present (where the immediate pleasure of the drug is), on short-term satisfaction of desires, and less on goals that offer deferred gratification like school, a career, or whatever. It lowers their capacity to endure temporary boredom and displeasure for the sake of long-term goals.

This doesn't happen to all heavy users, of course, but I have seen quite a few people go down this road, with all kinds of different drugs, including weed.



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pot doesn't make you act a certain way, think a certain way, or continue a certain pattern of behavior...unless you CHOOSE to follow a specific course. i don't buy this bullshit of "you get lazy" b/c plenty of people are just fuckin lazy regardless of whether they smoke pot or not. you're either lazy or you're not!
bottom line, people who get "addicted" have addictive personalities and would be dependent on SOMETHING if it weren't pot regardless. its the folks who take their addictions to extremes that give it all a bad rep.
people get hooked on weightlifting and end up looking like the mutant muscle dudes---took it to an extreme.
people get hooked on eating and become morbidly obese--took it to an extreme.
people get hooked on a variety of drugs and alcohol---took it an extreme.

blaming a drug for your own lazy and otherwise irresponsible behavior is ridiculous. that's what ruins the potential for pot to become legal.
so if you want to know whether pot increases your probability of becoming less able to control your own behavior, perhaps you should evaluate the behaviors you currently have and look to those for the answers.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Well, yes, you could argue that people who act in counterproductive ways after they start doing drugs already had major personality defects to start with.

The trouble is, in my experience it all seems to go the other way -- normally decent and responsible people (who had little trouble in school or at work, for example) start doing some drug regularly and heavily, alcohol or pot or meth or whatever, and then it seems like all their thoughts and actions become more present-oriented, focused on short-term pleasure. It doesn't happen in every case, and often the effects aren't permanent, but like I said, I've seen this happen too many times to try to explain it away as, "Well, they must have just had a defective 'addictive personality' from the start!"

I'm not trying to absolve people of responsibility, just describing a chain of events that I've witnessed a good number of times. IMO, it's a heck of lot sillier to contend that heavy drug use doesn't also typically change how people behave in their sober moments. To people who have known addicts, that idea clearly rings false.

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RapidFire
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Registered: Feb 2005
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a friend of mine went through withdrawal after he stopped smoking for about a week last summer

It does start to have a long-term effect on you if you smoke enough. Im starting to see it in his personality as well

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