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Originally posted by Storyteller I disagree I had a Virus B 4-5 years right at the beginning I started to produce more seriously. It was overwhelming, too much knobs and functions, I didn't know where to look. If you don't know synthesis I think the Virus is not the synth to start with. From my personal experience.

That's what presets are for. A simpler synth won't help... if you want something simple to learn synthesis, just get a copy of V-Station.

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Good tip. You can get it for 28 Euro's if you look at the right places. 100% legal too

And if you really want hardware, the k-station. My friends got that as their first synth. It's a very good one to start with imo! Very easy layout!

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

what will one learn by using presets? i dont think its smart to get a virus right away, start with synths without multitimbrality i think.

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Originally posted by Storyteller And if you really want hardware, the k-station. My friends got that as their first synth. It's a very good one to start with imo! Very easy layout!

I'm sure there's something better you can spend the $300 on. :P

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what will one learn by using presets? i dont think its smart to get a virus right away, start with synths without multitimbrality i think.

It's all about the sound. Using presets that sound great is better than making your own if they'll sound like crap. Once you can make something that sounds great, you can make your own sounds to be even better.

If learning synthesis is the ONLY goal, just get a freeware VSTi and twiddle away.

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Originally posted by echosystm do you know what a filter envelope is? if not, keep playing around with software, or it will be a waste imo.

Yep, sure do. I've been workin' with a synthesizer for about a year now, but it's a mega old Yamaha. Just lookin' for a good synthesizer that could give me the sound I want.

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Originally posted by alanzo I'm sure there's something better you can spend the $300 on. :P It's all about the sound. Using presets that sound great is better than making your own if they'll sound like crap. Once you can make something that sounds great, you can make your own sounds to be even better. If learning synthesis is the ONLY goal, just get a freeware VSTi and twiddle away.

That's not the goal, but either way, even if it was, no VSTi could give me the same results as some serious hardware.

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Originally posted by palm not sure i agree, if he wants a synth he should just get one, one of the simpler ones, preferably bought on ebay or something, just to learn stuff. if it doesnt work for him he can probably sell it again for the same price and not lost anything. u get Korg MS2000, an olschool rack-synth very cheap, and its an ok synth to learn basic stuff. samples: http://www.korg.co.uk/products/pro_.../pk_ms2000b.asp

I've been workin' with old school synths for too long haha. I'm lookin' for something hot and new that can give me the sound I want. Wider range of oscillation and such.

waldorf blofeld maybe?

Or a virus after all

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Originally posted by palm waldorf blofeld maybe?

+1. Although, I think that if you're only going to have one hardware synth, something with more knobs and less menu-diving is a better option because it gives you more immediate hands-on control. Maybe a Nord Lead 1/2 or Virus A/B? They can be purchased fairly cheap and the resale price seems to have remained stagnant for a while now.

Maybe it's just because I'm old-skool, but I think that turning off your computer, turning on a hardware synth, turning actual knobs, and listening to what happens is a much more efficient and fun way of learning to program synths compared to clicking/dragging on virtual controls. Just my two cents.

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Originally posted by cryophonik +1. Although, I think that if you're only going to have one hardware synth, something with more knobs and less menu-diving is a better option because it gives you more immediate hands-on control.

You obviously haven't played with the Blofeld yourself
It's so damn simple. I love it. The menu diving on the virus is way more complicated than the Blofeld

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