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hkaliher
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: San Diego

I just learned FL by playing around with it and it took me a while since it was the first program like it i had ever used.

i like the track though, really good for first try
hell i think it is better than a lot of stuff that's coming out in trance now


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Fernito
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Villa Alemana, Chile

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
You're clearly already a good composer, and that's the most important thing of them all. It's an huge head start compared to someone who is a complete noob to making music.

My main criticism on this track is that it sounds a bit too organic, too soft. Although that fact actually makes the track somewhat original, but you could start by trying to improve your synths. I see you used some Yamaha software synth, you can look into other software synths, there's plenty of info about it in the production studio forum. Another thing you could look at is the percussions, there really isn't many percs going on in your track. There's plenty of free packs of perc samples you can search for in the web.

But then again it all really depends on what you want to do... if you just want to have your track focusing completely on home-listening melodies, not really banging percs all over the place for clubbing, then it's ok as well. Now you'd probably ask... "well I don't really know what I want to do, I'm new to this?" Try listening to music already out there as it will help you a lot to collect ideas, but then again it'll bring the temptation of copying the styles of other producers.

Sorry for so much bullshit talk about originality, it's just that trance has been inundated with so much generic shit over the last few years, that everyone here has become ultra-sensitive about this.


I really appreciate your criticism, and, just as you, I appreciate originality.

About the track, yes, it's meant to sound soft (it's a theme I composed for my girlfriend, so I wanted it smooth ). What I really hate about it, is the percussion.

OK, I'll tell the primitive method I use to make the tracks: first, I compose them in Guitar Pro. It's so primitive, that I have to make different tracks to make delays by hand haha. After that, I export it to MIDI and playback with Yamaha XG Synthesizer while recording with CoolEdit. Since it is General MIDI based, I have just one kickdrum, one hithat, 3 snaredrums that sound like crap, and so. As for the synths, just the crap that comes with General MIDI.

The main reason because I want to use another program are 1) Need more drum and synth samples and 2) Need effects (I say "effects" for reverb, arpeggiator, and all that stuff that this video shows.

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Fernito
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Villa Alemana, Chile

quote:
Originally posted by hkaliher
I just learned FL by playing around with it and it took me a while since it was the first program like it i had ever used.


That's exactly what I'm planning to do as soon as I have time. Just tinker with the program

quote:
i like the track though, really good for first try
hell i think it is better than a lot of stuff that's coming out in trance now


Thanks!

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Whirloop
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: trance elite street

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Originally posted by david.michael
FL Studio (Fruity Loops) is fully capable, by the way, and there are pros that use it.



FL Studio all the way baby
The latest version is really really potent, this upgrade didn't feel like a waste at all. I love it!


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david.michael
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Dayton, OH, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Whirloop
FL Studio all the way baby
The latest version is really really potent, this upgrade didn't feel like a waste at all. I love it!


Because of its origins, FL Studio has this stigma about it that it's a toy or is not "capable". Many won't realize or accept that it has evolved into a fully-fledged, professional DAW. I personally love its workflow and interface.

The unfortunate thing is that there ARE a lot of douches using it to make junk as well, so that doesn't help. (Youtube: "here's how to make [shitty cover version of] blah-blah popular song!")

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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

Better still, don't use software, just hardware! (oldschool!)



Is this Armin? Nah this guy is way better...


(ofcourse you would need some money in order to buy all the equipment...!)

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Fernito
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Villa Alemana, Chile

Sadly, I suck at it I play bass, but never had the "touch" for keyboards.

I've been tinkering with FL Studio 5. I'll try to make something interesting and then I'll post it here

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

What you have is very nice for a first production. Glad that you aren't launching right in to using cliched elements like so many new producers do.

This thread should be moved to the Production forum, though...

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Fernito
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Villa Alemana, Chile

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What you have is very nice for a first production. Glad that you aren't launching right in to using cliched elements like so many new producers do.


Thanks!

quote:

This thread should be moved to the Production forum, though...


Yep, I already asked for that. Please, I'll be very grateful if a mod or an admin moves this to that forum

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LionsLair
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles

Id recommend either Reason 4 or the Latest Fruity Loops. "Try" out both, and see which one allows you to get whats in your head onto the canvas. I use neither, but have used Reason 2.0 in the past. They are good starter sequencing and arrangement environments, many use them professionally.

Reason 4 is all inclusive of the instruments you need. Fruity Loops is more versastile but you would have to get some VST's and drum machines/samplers along with it. For trance id recommend getting Nexus, Albino 3, Vanguard, MiniMoog, Kontakt or Battery. FX and mixing units, like EQ's, Compressors, Reverb, Delay (Waves Bundle). Voxengo also makes easy to use sound engineering software.

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Fernito
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Villa Alemana, Chile

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
Id recommend either Reason 4 or the Latest Fruity Loops. "Try" out both, and see which one allows you to get whats in your head onto the canvas. I use neither, but have used Reason 2.0 in the past. They are good starter sequencing and arrangement environments, many use them professionally.

Reason 4 is all inclusive of the instruments you need. Fruity Loops is more versastile but you would have to get some VST's and drum machines/samplers along with it. For trance id recommend getting Nexus, Albino 3, Vanguard, MiniMoog, Kontakt or Battery. FX and mixing units, like EQ's, Compressors, Reverb, Delay (Waves Bundle). Voxengo also makes easy to use sound engineering software.


Wow! Thanks! I'll take all those in mind. I think I'm going to download the demos right now (is any of these a freeware?).

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

Nah, you have to pay for all of those.

I use Reason 4.0 for most of my stuff.

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