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Originally posted by RJT How is that the future when it's been happening since the 80's (Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, World Class Wrecking Cru, etc.)? And almost all of those "bands/live acts" are great as "bands/live acts" - but have you ever heard a Hot Chip DJ set? Wretched.

Who cares about dj-sets? The purpose of these live p.a.s is exactly this, to give life performances (like bands), not to dj. Thank god we have enough djs for that already, the last thing we need is more djs FFS. I would like to go and see Apparat perform live for his awesome music , not for another house/techno set.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Who cares about dj-sets? The purpose of these live p.a.s is exactly this, to give life performances (like bands), not to dj. Thank god we have enough djs for that already, the last thing we need is more djs FFS. I would like to go and see Apparat perform live for his awesome music , not for another house/techno set.

Apparently the people booking them to play DJ sets, certainly not me.

But way to miss the point entirely. Seriously, trying for a perfect season this year?

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Originally posted by PETRAN Who cares about dj-sets?

Promoters do b/c they can get the same names at a cheaper cost as performing acts/bands costs substantially more (even if it is the same person/act)

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Originally posted by Ben Brown Promoters do b/c they can get the same names at a cheaper cost as performing acts/bands costs substantially more (even if it is the same person/act)

That is not necessarily true. A 1 hour live act is sometimes less expensive than a 4-5-6 hours DJ set. But I understand your point.

And to the original poster, kraftwerk did in the 70's

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Originally posted by Ben Brown Promoters do b/c they can get the same names at a cheaper cost as performing acts/bands costs substantially more (even if it is the same person/act)

Yes, but then i guess that the ticket would be more expensive for the case of live band...if that was the case there wouldn't be any live performances since all these names would just dj...

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Originally posted by julien2 That is not necessarily true. A 1 hour live act is sometimes less expensive than a 4-5-6 hours DJ set. But I understand your point. And to the original poster, kraftwerk did in the 70's

I think Ben has a pretty good idea what he's talking about.

And I wasn't under the impression that the majority of these groups were doing extended DJ sets - most of the nights they've played in Chicago/Milwaukee their sets have been pretty brief (at least from my admittedly limited understanding).

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like Justice? lol

I also agree with Petran's first reply and just can add:

Never heard of FAITHLESS???

On stage they have been doing this for years at festivals.

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Originally posted by RJT I think Ben has a pretty good idea what he's talking about.

I think Julien's right, though - you won't get a band playing a seven hour DJ set, so it sort of balances out if you're a bean-counter.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT It will evolve into something a little more complex then what people used in the past and what people are using now, obviously.

hmm i think that's subjective. what's so complex about a guy playing clips in ableton, for instance? It's like the AOL of live PA. or do you mean the music itself?


THIS is complex.



http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d/t-466974.html

I suppose we'll see more complex music but even so I think there needs to be a cultural paradigm shift before it becomes 'the future' of EDM. people are just too stuck on the pop paradigm

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Originally posted by nefardec I suppose we'll see more complex music but even so I think there needs to be a cultural paradigm shift before it becomes 'the future' of EDM. people are just too stuck on the pop paradigm

Precisely.

I think this recent "rediscovery" of the greatness of bands and performers within EDM (wow, now we can do the live rock star thing, too!) is kind of weird.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Precisely. I think this recent "rediscovery" of the greatness of bands and performers within EDM (wow, now we can do the live rock star thing, too!) is kind of weird.

yeah if anything i think that mindset is regressive


and on the other hand you have Girl Talk, who revels in how little of a musician he is.

(what the fuck is he doing at DEMF?)

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Originally posted by RJT And almost all of those "bands/live acts" are great as "bands/live acts" - but have you ever heard a Hot Chip DJ set? Wretched.

I've never been to / seen a Hot Chip DJ set but I thought their essential mix was great.

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