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Originally posted by Magnetonium LOL, OK, so I didnt see this year's parade, hahah ;-) clearly more weaponry displayed than I thought - but seriously, any Soviet military parade would have kicked this one's arse. Kinda odd that in the West you guys dont celebrate/commemorate WW2 victory ... hardly anything close to the way Russians do it. But then again, it was more personal for Russian people, as almost every single family lost someone in that war - a father, brother, son, wife, children, entire families and villages. It was such a devastating war, it will be engraved for a long time in Russian memory.

How come they don't celebrate when Stalin's rule ended? He killed more Russians than the Nazis did??!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Kinda odd that in the West you guys dont celebrate/commemorate WW2 victory ... hardly anything close to the way Russians do it.

Probably because the Eastern Front was such an epic battlefield. No other battlefield compares to the Eastern Front (1941-1945). Millions died in battle. Leningrad, Stalingrad, Crimea, Kursk, etc. So epic because the Germans were so close to victory. Moscow at one point was only 20 miles from the front line. And as you said, almost all Russians were affected directly by the invasion.

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call me an old fuck, but damn some of those pics remind me of being a little kid after watching Red Dawn & Shit....

The Parades back in the day during the times of the Cold War....
AWESOME!! for a plastic army collector when I was a wee lad...

awesome but yet very scary for a kid, watching all of the fear being fed to us by the media back then...... just as it is today...

fucking people man...

hahaha DRAAAAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Seriously, when we walked out of the train station is a slightly sketchy area of St Petersburg, I felt like Rocky in Rocky IV getting off the plane. Except there were no chaperrones (that I could see ) and no snow.

Other pics (non-military ones) at www.imageevent.com/pmoisse

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru How come they don't celebrate when Stalin's rule ended? He killed more Russians than the Nazis did??!

Stalin was a fucking psychopath, pardon my language. You are probably right about that. Plus the millions of people he starved to death or ethnically displaced. And ordinary Russians are to this day blamed for his shit (even though Stalin was ethnic Georgian).

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Originally posted by Krypton Probably because the Eastern Front was such an epic battlefield. No other battlefield compares to the Eastern Front (1941-1945). Millions died in battle. Leningrad, Stalingrad, Crimea, Kursk, etc. So epic because the Germans were so close to victory. Moscow at one point was only 20 miles from the front line. And as you said, almost all Russians were affected directly by the invasion.

Soviet Union was going to win that war one way or another. There was an easy / smart to way to win it - but Stalin and his cronies were such retards they went to such extremes as to kill off millions of people in dumb and despicable ways in battle, aka the dumb way to win the war. What kind of moron sends Cossacks on horses to battle German tanks? Thats so retarded. And it resulted in many stupid casualties. No wonder why Stalin almost pushed the war to his own defeat. Just send a few thousand troops with hunting rifles into a column of tanks - eventually they'll break through and win (at a cost). Thats so dumb. On the Western battlefields, things were quite different, and as a result Americans lost less troops in the entire war than Soviets did in one battle.

I have no pride or respect or appreciation for the actions of the communist leaders and brass when it comes to Soviet-era battles. Even for WW2 - I am very embarassed the way Soviet leadership handled the war. So many people died when they didnt have to, and many other left to die - like the Leningrad blockade - Stalin ordered troops to SHOOT ANYONE who tried to leave the city to escape the blockade. The moron wanted people to stay there and suffer the Nazi daily shelling and shooting. Ordinary people, women and children. Imagine how many starved to death ... War was won mainly because of sheer manpower superiority, with the help of great Soviet military technology of course. If Soviet armies didnt outnumber German troops 2 to 1, I doubt Soviets were going to win that war.

Even the great Soviet T-34 tanks - often manned by untrained and often enough drunk soldiers. Get into a tank, get couple hours training and go fight crack German tank lines.

That Soviet mentality still lingers on today in many places. Quantity, not quality. Human life - pfffft. And as a result many thousands of Russians die every year from stupid accidents, alcohol/drug overdosage, stupid risks, crime, etc. Reckless behaviour.

I hate that dam communist disease so much. So many times I tried to picture what Russia would be today if October "Revolution" failed. Definitely not any worse than today, thats for sure. I dont care if that means losing the Soviet "achievements" like Sputnik - because they were built on people's blood, lives and ways of live, many of them. Its no achievement in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Stalin was a fucking psychopath, pardon my language. You are probably right about that. Plus the millions of people he starved to death or ethnically displaced. And ordinary Russians are to this day blamed for his shit (even though Stalin was ethnic Georgian).

Yeah, that's the one thing i don't understand why people(former USSR states) blame Russian's for everthing. It probably has to do with Russia getting all the better land with natural resources. But I've read that Stalin was angry with any one who called him Georgian rather than a Russian. So he saw himself as Russian.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Yeah, that's the one thing i don't understand why people(former USSR states) blame Russian's for everthing. It probably has to do with Russia getting all the better land with natural resources. But I've read that Stalin was angry with any one who called him Georgian rather than a Russian. So he saw himself as Russian.

Kremlin changes everything One full floor tour of the entire facility and you'll feel the destructive power and capabilities of the Russian leaders