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Gen3r4l1ty
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: So, CA

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
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i just think theres a vast difference between good creativity and creativity used just to make something sound different. trance is often already so packed and mudded with sounds its kind of pointless


'good creativity' is a bit subjective. What it comes down to is, can a dj put together a good trance set in ableton? As long as that answer is yes the discussion is moot.


**EDIT** <--- not an ableton user ftr.


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n3lly
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin

A better question still i suppose would be, Is ableton wasted on a Trance set?

(of course the smart arses out there will say, it's only wasted if the person using it doesn't know how best to use it..)

It's just another one of those debates.

Bottom line is, yes you can use it. It'll work.

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
However to me, Trance is a but more simple. Not in a bad way, but i think it has more of a linear flow compared to other genres. Introducing too many sources can sometimes ruin it for me. Compared to other genres where you can layer tonnes of inputs on top of each other.


Nonesense. The reason I think ableton lends itself well to other genres such as minimal, tech or funky house, is that those types of music can be very basic in terms of their layers and instruments, often just rely on loops. Very complex melodies and loops can just get lost when not properly balanced with or against each other, and trance consitst often of long evolving melodies and loops.

A lot of people think that Trance is simple becuase we are exposed in the mainstream to a lot formulaic rubbish, that just have elements that build on such predictable bases. good trance is incredibly layered and requires serious attention paid to the balancing of elements, to provide flow.

A interesting point to highlight this is I've noted a few people saying they find it near impossible to mix older trance with modern trance in Ableton, saying the "beats sound different somehow" or the melodies don't layer when trying to bring in older trance in new trance tracks. I think this is indicative of older types of trance being less forumlaic (in all preduction respects) and therefore harder to combine with music of a different strain.

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Originally posted by n3lly
Get a good mixer though. Too many people skimp on the mixer.


this is great advice - a lot of people blow loads of cash on decks, a laptop etc. but the mixer is probably the one part of my setup I am most concerned with when doing a mix.
That's why I hunted for mine for 3 years!

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miamitranceman
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Miami

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Holdthescroll
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DJ Rann: you hunted for your mixer for 3 years?!? damn!

What did you end up with? I assume this is your current recommendation? What is your opinion on the TTM56 (or 57, if it's actually worth the price difference)?

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discobiscuit
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: USA

trance... ugh! it is the most beautiful music on earth imo, but there is just no market for it in the united states. if i'm cleaning my room or somehting i'll play a trance track, clean for about 7 or 8 minutes, mix the next track in (which takes about a minute), and then clean some more.

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