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Kinezi
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GUYs GUYS GUYS..LISTEN.. SHUT UP!!

I think my first post derailed this thread and took it to some other direction.. he didnt make this thread to ask wether paying upfront is safe or not.. he is asking wether 600 USD is okay money for getting a remix done or not?

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tubby
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who owns the rights to that remix afterwards?

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PaulSn
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who owns the rights to that remix afterwards?



If the label / person buys it, it's his...legally.

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azone
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$600 is pretty much the basic rate if they're not a superatar. As far as who owns it it depends on whether you had them sign a (non-)exlusive clause..then it's yours, can't be released on another label (without your permission). $600 for a non-exlusive remix is pretty much normal


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dj_unsorted
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quote:
Originally posted by azone
$600 is pretty much the basic rate if they're not a superatar. As far as who owns it it depends on whether you had them sign a (non-)exlusive clause..then it's yours, can't be released on another label (without your permission). $600 for a non-exlusive remix is pretty much normal




thank you!!! stop this thread now... sorry i thanked someone n bumped it... =oP


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Trance-M
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Re: Re: Re: paying for remixes

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Originally posted by Az
bullshit


You obviously don't know what you are talking about. If you know how much time it takes to make a decent remix it's not strange someone gets paid for it. It's not like they earn a lot of money by making remixes and get paid for it.
If Lisaya makes a remix that can take one or two weeks in evening hours. He wants to do it right, and not like many other do in just a few hours.
The remixer gets a request to make a remix, probably because the producer liked earlier work. They pay because they think it's worth the money.
Who are you to reply with 'bullshit' if I have this information from a still unknown producer?
I think no well known producers remix for free.


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Trance-M
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Re: Re: Re: paying for remixes

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Originally posted by Ian
For the clowns you call trance producers, yeah, money is pretty much all they care about and the music comes second, which leaves the tracks feeling empty, and particularly not from the heart.

the simple fact that they only want half upfront, that they're someone you respect etc, makes me say that u should just go with it if that's what you want



Who is the clown here... Lisaya gets paid for remixes, but also pays others to remix his tracks. He pays because he than knows he gets a decent track which is not feeling empty, because it gets mixed with much more attention and not just in a few hours like many do. So maybe the ones who do it for free are the clowns, who remix for free, hoping to get a hit that way......


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Re: Re: Re: Re: paying for remixes

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Who is the clown here... Lisaya gets paid for remixes, but also pays others to remix his tracks. He pays because he than knows he gets a decent track which is not feeling empty, because it gets mixed with much more attention and not just in a few hours like many do. So maybe the ones who do it for free are the clowns, who remix for free, hoping to get a hit that way......


well since I made my comment before "lisaya" I guess it's obvious that I didn't mean him personally. I mean the number of cut & paste trance producers who use one sound for 20 tracks and change just the melody, like a conveyor belt of sameness. Ideas in those are lacking. Using for example the same bassline & clap isn't always so bad but when every lead or drum pattern or everything sound the same (and all the remakes which take previously good tracks which people had to actually work on producing in the first place) It's become such that creativity is at an all-time low.

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Trance-M
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: paying for remixes

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I mean the number of cut & paste trance producers who use one sound for 20 tracks and change just the melody, like a conveyor belt of sameness. Ideas in those are lacking. Using for example the same bassline & clap isn't always so bad but when every lead or drum pattern or everything sound the same (and all the remakes which take previously good tracks which people had to actually work on producing in the first place) It's become such that creativity is at an all-time low.


But that's the reason why Lisaya pays and gets paid for remixes. His experience learned him that free remixes end up like you explain above.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: paying for remixes

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But that's the reason why Lisaya pays and gets paid for remixes. His experience learned him that free remixes end up like you explain above.


so you're telling me that 90% of trance productions today are done for free? Because that is pretty much the percentage of uninspired tripe we have to sift through nowadays.

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Trance-M
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: paying for remixes

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so you're telling me that 90% of trance productions today are done for free? Because that is pretty much the percentage of uninspired tripe we have to sift through nowadays.


I only can tell you what Lisaya told me. I don't know how it is with other producers. I know Lisaya produces what HE likes and maybe you would put that in the 90%. Sometimes I get the feeling the producers taste in general is not the same like TA's taste over here. I don't want to start taste discussions again, have had enough of those.


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jupiterone
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quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Nachos remix....... 100 billion euros upfront.


will it be as good as arcadia's remix of FLY?

Old Post Jun-15-2008 21:54  Poland
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