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Originally posted by Dr. DAS For example, Lower Eglinton Station, which was completely excavated only to be filled with sand so he could build the all but useless subway extension in his precious North York.

you can add mike harris and his provincial conservatives to that as well. heck, anything to do with cutting transit you can thank mike harris for.

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Originally posted by DigiNut And how, precisely, has he revitalized it? All he's actually succeeded in doing is to make life more difficult for automobile drivers. Hardly on the way to "world class" here. But Miller said so himself, so it must be true!!

How do you figure?

- The St. Clair Right of Way will make the transit service along the street more efficient.

- Miller has contributed toward the TTC's ridership growth strategy

- Miller recently announced plans to build a light rail network linking most of the city...

These are just some of the contributions he has made to improving public transit in the city. The problem doesn't lie with Miller, thats complete nonsense.

The problem is two-fold and self-exacerbating:

More people need to leave their cars at home and rely on public transit... The only problem is that the service as it exists today could be better. This is exactly why Metrolinx exists and is working toward improving transit in Toronto.

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ive seen the size of the streetcar lanes and i can tell you theres noway a firetruck is gonna be able to stay on them their way to narow

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You forgot david miller's cancelling of "Celebrate Toronto" which was a nice festival for families that had real attractions and instead replaced it with his wine and cheese crowd offerings like Nuit Blanche which will never have anywhere near the same numbers of attendance. Not saying that Nuit Blanche shouldnt happen, but why not both? Answer: One was working class Lastman's idea and the other was limousine socialist miller's.

did you even attend any Nuit Blanche events last year? Because I was out for *hours* from the Ryerson area to OCAD to College West to Yorkville.

there were students ALL OVER THE PLACE, easily outnumbering the "wine and cheese" crowd in most locations to which you claim it caters. As for attendance, I can't remember seeing the community out en mass on city streets for anything other than major events like Caribana, Pride, etc.

if you want to complain about Celebrate Toronto being canned, fine...but don't bash a widely attended, successful event like Nuit Blanche at the same time.

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Originally posted by Dave Akermanis How do you figure? - The St. Clair Right of Way will make the transit service along the street more efficient. - Miller has contributed toward the TTC's ridership growth strategy - Miller recently announced plans to build a light rail network linking most of the city... These are just some of the contributions he has made to improving public transit in the city. The problem doesn't lie with Miller, thats complete nonsense. The problem is two-fold and self-exacerbating: More people need to leave their cars at home and rely on public transit... The only problem is that the service as it exists today could be better. This is exactly why Metrolinx exists and is working toward improving transit in Toronto.

Jesus tap-dancing Christ, are you his PR agent or something? I swear, you sound like a press release straight from the Mayor's office.

I ask you again, what have Miller or any of his cronies actually done to improve transportation in Toronto? Throwing money at advertising, forming committees, and whining and bitching at people for driving cars when the TTC doesn't go anywhere useful is not improving this city. Neither is tearing up roads and expressways in a vain attempt to force people to use the TTC.

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Originally posted by DigiNut TTC doesn't go anywhere useful

just curious, where does it go then? or does it go nowhere at all?

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Originally posted by smuncky just curious, where does it go then? or does it go nowhere at all?

Must we dredge up this debate again?


London:




Tokyo:




New York:




Barcelona:




Chicago:





....Toronto:




Can we close the book on this, please?

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Originally posted by DigiNut Jesus tap-dancing Christ, are you his PR agent or something? I swear, you sound like a press release straight from the Mayor's office. I ask you again, what have Miller or any of his cronies actually done to improve transportation in Toronto? Throwing money at advertising, forming committees, and whining and bitching at people for driving cars when the TTC doesn't go anywhere useful is not improving this city. Neither is tearing up roads and expressways in a vain attempt to force people to use the TTC.

Strange then that so many of us get along just fine using Toronto's transit system. Perhaps we are just more resourceful than you are?

I guess I can see your point when you ask what Miller has actually DONE in terms of new components/develpments to the transit system - but I think you are totally disregarding the huge amt. of lobbying and work Miller has contributed to the TTC securing new sources of funding.

You say the transit system doesn't go anywhere? Then why are you complaining about the efforts that are underway to improve it?

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Originally posted by DigiNut ...

aw, come on now...

the TTC is more than just the subway and RT system.

agreed it's pathetic compared to other world cities, but...

Tokyo looks like a giant circuit board, god damn thats crazy.

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Originally posted by DigiNut

right right i forgot. theres only the subway system that we must compare to all the other subway systems.

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