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Zak McKracken
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oh man. ok, lets calm down. u can also try ALT+PrintScreen, then it only copyes the "active" window/program/popup whatever. im such a computer wizard!

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A limiter is just compressor with a very high compression ratio and a hard knee. Often you can acheive the same results that a limiter produces with a compressor. You just need to know what you are doing.

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mysticalninja
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basically you're just compressing with a high ratio and fast as possible attack. If you're trying to supress peaks this is fine. Just don't try to use it to add punch.


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lowski
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basically you're just compressing with a high ratio and fast as possible attack. If you're trying to supress peaks this is fine. Just don't try to use it to add punch.


i keep hearing this "punch " word. what does this meen exactly, it has to do with the bass and kick right?

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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
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Haha, no punch isn't to do with kick or bass, its about the envelope of any sound.
It just involves using a high attack, so that the initial transient of the source material is not affected by compression, while the rest is. This means that you get more differentiation between the attack and the sustain portion of the hit, therefore more "punch".

Its really funny how I often wind up answering technical questions from people who are much better producers than me


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I have never used a limiter, ever..


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DigiNut
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Don't limit by more than 1 dB or so on individual channels - it's essentially just extremely high compression and if the track is further compressed afterwards (which it almost always will be during the mastering phase) then you can end up with some real ugliness. The only time to use a limiter is if you have a few really weird peaks in an otherwise flat track (and even then, it's probably better to just fix those peaks).

Obviously it's easier to do, but the right things aren't usually the easy things.


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djandymac
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the idea of a compresser is to squash the dynamic range and therefore reducing depth. so i reckon using a limiter is better as ur sound with be louder and u will still have the depth.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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the idea of a compresser is to squash the dynamic range and therefore reducing depth. so i reckon using a limiter is better as ur sound with be louder and u will still have the depth.

A limiter is just a compressor with a very high ratio and fast attack. A super-compressor, if you will.

So, no, using a limiter isn't "better" if you're worried about keeping a large dynamic range.

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DigiNut
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the idea of a compresser is to squash the dynamic range and therefore reducing depth. so i reckon using a limiter is better as ur sound with be louder and u will still have the depth.

What exactly do you think a limiter does?


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MrJiveBoJingles
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What exactly do you think a limiter does?

It adds analog to your tracks, right?

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It adds analog to your tracks, right?

Only if it's an analog limiter.


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