not only does the internet (youtube specifically) expose things quicker AND REACHES MORE PEOPLE with greater range than a print magazine or a corporate terrestial radio station, it also dilutes the diversity of local music scenes. before the internet, local areas developed their own sound. but now that everyone can see and hear what everyone else is doing, people end up playing the same shit. im 32 i was around when the internet was not relevant to dance music, THAT was underground: prog, breaks, ANY form of ravey shit, was underground back then. in san fran you heard san fran funky disco sounding house, in florida the breaks ruled, in chicago there was hard house (bad boy bill style). today ... in any area you will hear IN THE CLUBS either electro/vocal house, or minimal/tech. its almost like how governments try very hard to make sure certain species of plants/animals/insects do not propogate to non native regions, because it fucks shit up man, ex: the honeybees in the US are disappearing probably because the african killer bees first showed up in texas and are kicking all the other bee's asses. im worried.

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Of course "underground" stuff can still exist.

I have plenty of tracks released in the past two years which can't be found on google, beatport, discogs or pretty much anywhere, some of them by pretty big artists too.

in my opinion,

'underground' isn't a thing you can tag to a track, an album, or an artist


it is a mentality, a scene, a vibe, a phenonmenon.

the very word implies place, subduction, subversion. I think 'underground' is a mental or social 'place', a subsersive mentality.


When you have this mentality and you connect with others and make music and spread this mentality then you start to have an underground.

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Originally posted by nefardec in my opinion, 'underground' isn't a thing you can tag to a track, an album, or an artist it is a mentality, a scene, a vibe, a phenonmenon. the very word implies place, subduction, subversion. I think 'underground' is a mental or social 'place', a subsersive mentality. When you have this mentality and you connect with others and make music and spread this mentality then you start to have an underground.

Bingo.

I dunno what you guys are talking about.


Underground = Dubfire

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

I buy all of my music from Beatport, isn't that underground?

I think there will be always an underground scene, like some said underground is more than just unreleased stuff, it's also a culture and a spirit. At the same time i like the idea of being able to listening to tons of good unsigned music (myspace) in a very comfortable way.

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Originally posted by shonguiz ... good unsigned music (myspace)...

There's a lot more out there than just what you find on Myspace. Myspace is a networking and promotional tool. It's about getting your name out to people, therefore going against the very concept of "underground."

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Originally posted by stevësto not only does the internet (youtube specifically) expose things quicker AND REACHES MORE PEOPLE with greater range than a print magazine or a corporate terrestial radio station, it also dilutes the diversity of local music scenes.

In a big, empty country like the US, maybe. Dubstep came from London, in the tiny, crowded UK. It's the same in most parts of Europe. The Internet has not sped up the spread of local scenes here. Don't assume the whole world works like the US.

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It will just make it harder to find

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Originally posted by idoru There's a lot more out there than just what you find on Myspace. Myspace is a networking and promotional tool. It's about getting your name out to people, therefore going against the very concept of "underground."

well it just depends on the audience

but yeah the idea is introversion

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J In a big, empty country like the US, maybe. Dubstep came from London, in the tiny, crowded UK. It's the same in most parts of Europe. The Internet has not sped up the spread of local scenes here. Don't assume the whole world works like the US.

so true.


even in new york city there is an underground scene of locals doing their thing though.

I make music in my parents basement, therefore, underground music is still possible.

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