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Frequency Frank
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Jersey/NYC

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Originally posted by Frequency Mike
had a feeling you were gonna say that lol... did we ever go there together back in the day with ryan?


Haha, I don't think so. I know the three of us went to spirit and crobar, but I think that's it.


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Yan
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Wano

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My nyc clubbing adventure began in 03 at roxy, seeing AvB.

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verndogs
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I'd love for the Roxy to open again.


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ReenTeenTeen
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Crooklyn, nYc "Tribal" Projects

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Originally posted by reenteenteen
i am not much for speaches but i am upset that shit holes in NYC get historical preservations but Roxy with 30 years of history cannot be saved just because yapppies feel like the space is residentually inapropriete while the zoning only changed few years back and them assholes feel like they own the part of town because they overpaid good money for their low square footage. whatever, all clubs keep closing with the best history and we cannot do anything to save any element of our past. Why cant any of the closed clubs get historic preservation??? it just sux staarting with studio 54 to the latest victim being Roxy and Avolon (Limelight), we dont have anything and everything is kept being taken away. I grew up in NYC clubs since early 90's and today there is not one club I can go back to have a drink and just get a recallection of my good old time. Wesbster Hall (turist hall) not included.


I posted this up on another forum on the same subject. I thought I'll share my feelings here too.


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phoenixBEBE
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: 2012. Everything changes after this year :) <3 so can't wait.

julian i am so feeling your statement. seriously.

But...i am meh so far about the 'born-again' clubs. so far none have really worked out in the *right* way and they have ALL closed - with the exception of Pacha. so far, WH is the only venue that has NOT been shut down and re-opened. I would HATE for Roxy to reopen but be a TOTALLY different club and have a totally different vibe than it was known for (aka being chopped up space-wise/catering more to VIP etc).


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AY STAR
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: the county of kings..ny

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aslo i dont get it, the roxy is FAR ENOUGH AWAY from residential areas or businesses in general so i cant see any viable reason to complain about any noise or disruptions in the neighborhood!


times have changed around the block and down the block there are all new condos going up
if roxy opens back up and does its thing that would be great but i dont really think its going to happen
but man i would love to see pvd there one more time


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phoenixBEBE
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Registered: Jul 2003
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times have changed around the block and down the block there are all new condos going up
if roxy opens back up and does its thing that would be great but i dont really think its going to happen
but man i would love to see pvd there one more time


omg so would i andrew, so would i...

i faithfully went to MOST Roxy parties and all PVD gigs but ONE since Nov 2002 when it was still around...

hell, i dont even know why it closed in the first place. i mean it *was* a famed skating rink...and there are def not many of those around these days...i mean it could totally have a place in the neighborhood


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Konijn
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: New York City

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Originally posted by reenteenteen
. Why cant any of the closed clubs get historic preservation??? it just sux staarting with studio 54 to the latest victim being Roxy and Avolon (Limelight), we dont have anything and everything is kept being taken away. I grew up in NYC clubs since early 90's and today there is not one club I can go back to have a drink and just get a recallection of my good old time. Wesbster Hall (turist hall) not included.


historic preservation is for the building, not for the business inside. limelight is a landmarked building so its facade and major internal workings ain't going anywhere. ditto for webster hall which was landmarked last month. (santos' party house on lafayette -- which is hosting made's ete d'amour parties -- `was also a landmarked 3-4 years ago.)

if a business is faltering due to either its business model or outside pressures (like police scrutiny), an argument for historic preservation won't save it -- it can only save its architecture.

clubbers shouldn't be arguing from a preservationist perspective, but rather a zoning one. the real culprit is the massive scale of rezoning that began under giuliani and has continued unabated under bloombucks. areas formerly zoned for industrial or commercial purposes (or in coney island's case, amusements) have continually been rezoned as residential.

landmarking roxy, for example, might preserve the building but if street-level boutiques and bistros with condos above them start sprouting up around it, the chances that the roxy will function as a club/roller rink are zero.

personally, seeing a beloved older space turned into a gentrified yuppie permutation of its former self may be as disconcerting as if it were torn down -- when i walk by the palladium's former spot my stomach doesn't quite turn in the same way it does when i see john varvatos's wares inside cbgbs.

if people are unhappy, they should start bugging their state senators and city councilpersons (though they're usually in cahoots with any and all business interests) and start showing up at monthly community board meetings and making their voices heard when these decisions are going down. it's unlikely that that the tide can be turned, but an occasional battle might be won.


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AY STAR
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: the county of kings..ny

i honestly dont see this going in the right direction for roxy to be a club again if it does it will be some other upscale club
roxy itself i feel cannot survive week after week on such a huge space by not goin to bottle service not more edm music driven
times changed,neighborhood changed
and now with the highline park opening up later this year i think
iam sure some developers are already lookin at tryin to buy the land to build something there


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