Originally posted by Ryan0751
You DO NOT NEED TO EQ a mix for it to sound proper.
EQ is like salt, a little here, a little there.
You can mix VERY nicely using just the upfaders. The gain structure of DJ mixers is such that you can bring two tracks in and have quite a bit of control without peaking the levels... unless of course you are just throwing the fader all the way up (which you shouldn't do anyway).
Try practicing without EQ's first, focus on your gains and levels, and when you should subtly switch the faders a bit on the top end. DJ's did this for many, many years (including folks like Sasha and Digweed on Twilo's UREI 1620, which doesn't have EQ's).
Over time mixers like the 1620 were complimented with a separate 3 band isolator on the master, which would allow you to do things like drop the bass a tad or do some drop effects... modern mixers with EQ's on every channel let you be more creative, but it's not "necessary" to EQ on every mix.
I have done this, and still experience phase cancellation.
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Jul-09-2008 17:32
Ryan0751
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Practice more?
quote:
Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt
I have done this, and still experience phase cancellation.
Jul-09-2008 17:36
ReclusNdangrmnt
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Since this last week I've been trying to get in like 20-30 minute sessions a day. I just waltzed over to the ole setup and gave some of the stuff on here a try. The faders do indeed work wonders, so thanks for that...And the phase cancellation is easily EQ'd out. Boatloads of help.
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Jul-09-2008 18:16
Zild
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
you probably should eq
your levels will spike otherwise
Not if you control the gain or fader levels properly. I hardly ever EQ. Only when absolutely necessary. Not saying it is the wrong or right thing to do, but I don't spike my levels.
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I don't mean to sound like an ass, but really you should be able to mix without EQ's. There are still venues around with rotary mixers without them, so it's good to know how to do it.
quote:
Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt
Since this last week I've been trying to get in like 20-30 minute sessions a day. I just waltzed over to the ole setup and gave some of the stuff on here a try. The faders do indeed work wonders, so thanks for that...And the phase cancellation is easily EQ'd out. Boatloads of help.
Jul-09-2008 18:19
Zild
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Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
Yeah seriously don't use the EQs like you're cutting up a dead animal. If you're having phase problems (poor beatmatching) work on that first. Don't try to cover up shoddy mixing by abusing the EQs.
I can point you towards a mix I did using no EQ at all. Actually a few if you're interested in hearing what it sounds like.
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Jul-09-2008 18:24
Zild
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Scroll down the the bottom and download the Mixes that say "J Cavazos". Those are all mine and they're all done with zero EQ only gains and level faders. I'd go for the August 2007 one as it is the most recent but they're all done with no EQ.
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Originally posted by Ryan0751
You DO NOT NEED TO EQ a mix for it to sound proper.
EQ is like salt, a little here, a little there.
You can mix VERY nicely using just the upfaders. The gain structure of DJ mixers is such that you can bring two tracks in and have quite a bit of control without peaking the levels... unless of course you are just throwing the fader all the way up (which you shouldn't do anyway).
Try practicing without EQ's first, focus on your gains and levels, and when you should subtly switch the faders a bit on the top end. DJ's did this for many, many years (including folks like Sasha and Digweed on Twilo's UREI 1620, which doesn't have EQ's).
Bam-O!
Right on the nose! Props to you Ryan.. Listen to this man, he knows what his on about.
when i first started mixing i would put in 8-9 hours a day, i'd take a little break now and then to grab a drink or something to snack on, hit the bathroom and back to it i went
to play any instrument takes a large level of dedication
i could probably mix my first 100 records i ever had with my eyes closed but it was worth it
it takes many years to master a craft, i've been doing this for over 8 years now and i'm still nowhere near where i want to be
keep playing, one day everything will just "click"
20-30 minutes is all I can manage with my schedule...I'm a hobbyist, I'm not trying to find work (Well...Not at this point >_>).
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