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Originally posted by get nyce budget budget budget what do you intend on having the bike for? What do you want to do? Light trail riding, all around use? Are you climbing steep hills, ripping down rocky terrain? First assess what your needs are, then you need to look at your budget. I'd say for decent mountain bikes that are affordable, go with Giant. You may find some in the 200-300 price range that is decent enough to go around. I warn you though, once you get out there on your bike you'll have that instant I need better feel. So really think about it. If you want to go up a grade, look at Trek they make some nice bikes. Specialized and Cannondale if you got the cash to spend on some quality performance. Geared Road Bikes - same applies budget wise! I'm riding a Bianchi Coast 2 Coast right now, loving it to be honest. Some note worthy road bikes are bianchi, cannondale, schwinn, felt. more top of the line and ultra expensive are orbea, guru, cervelo, and look. also if you've built a bike before and know about it's components, then I'd say check out bikesdirect.com - just an FYI though, the prices are cheap but they are boxed bikes, meaning you'll have to assemble them yourself. Not an easy task to be honest

my counter argument to this is the following 2 points

road bikes can't go offroad, so only buy one if you're not intending to do anything in the local trails you may have.

secondly a boxed one can easily be assembled by a local shop. My brother bought a Giant one not long ago & had it put together & tested for $50, cheaper than the money he saved from mail ordering it.

How is the brand "Fuji" anyone know?

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

they make good cameras ben

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Originally posted by Ian they make good cameras ben

Yeah well I asked about bikes!

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

Fuji makes good bikes also

As for the not being THAT familiar and can figure out the parts, yea sure I totally agree with you be it that as an engineer I think about those things. I just don't want to be ripping down a trail to find out my brakes don't work or if I tightened the bottom bracket properly. I don't know crap about building a bike and even the mechanics of it quite scares me in those "what if" situations.

Road bike down hill and having no steering in your fork because of a headset bearing not properly installed is quite scary. Same would apply if your brakes didn't work.

As for having a LBS put together a boxed bike for you, yea plenty of people have done it and you do end up saving a lot. Then again maybe it's my area but I can understand why a LBS might not want to do it or if they did they'd charge you a bunch to assemble.

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Originally posted by get nyce Fuji makes good bikes also As for the not being THAT familiar and can figure out the parts, yea sure I totally agree with you be it that as an engineer I think about those things. I just don't want to be ripping down a trail to find out my brakes don't work or if I tightened the bottom bracket properly. I don't know crap about building a bike and even the mechanics of it quite scares me in those "what if" situations. Road bike down hill and having no steering in your fork because of a headset bearing not properly installed is quite scary. Same would apply if your brakes didn't work. As for having a LBS put together a boxed bike for you, yea plenty of people have done it and you do end up saving a lot. Then again maybe it's my area but I can understand why a LBS might not want to do it or if they did they'd charge you a bunch to assemble.

Yeah I see your concern, but it is in a way something that can't go wrong as long as you don't have to deal with assembling the crank stuff. That is the only area I can see it as a problem as you would need to know the way in which all the bearings, washers, etc go in before assembling it.

So Fuji is a good manufacturer. I saw someone with one which is why I was wondering. I am really looking to drive even less (which is already only 10mi a day as it is) than I already do. I am trying to do what I can to minimize my driving as much as possible.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

My suggestion would be to go to the local bike shop, try a bunch of different bikes, a bunch of different sizes and then start shopping for used bikes from there. From that standpoint, the most important component is the frame itself. You can always update a frame with new componentry if you really get into the sport. If you don't get into it, well then you didn't spend a bunch of money on a bike you'll never ride.

Last year, I bought a brand new 2005 GT Disc for $300. Since then, I've upgraded everything except the wheelset and the front fork. Everything I've bought has been on sale or clearanced, etc. Now it rides really sweet and I've built it myself. If I could go back and do it again, I'd just look for a lightly used bike or frame and start from there.

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Originally posted by get nyce I warn you though, once you get out there on your bike you'll have that instant I need better feel. So really think about it.

A big +1 to that. And it's fun too. I really don't go for the high-end componentry (because I'm not that technical of a rider nor do I have that much money to spend) but look for good deals on sale stuff that is still decent componentry. SOOOOO fun to get new stuff and then go beat on your bike!

P.S. - and you'll also want to trick it out, my headset cap says 'ENERGYHAX'

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energyhax nice one


bianchi c2c 53cm

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I am a weakling, so I need a light bike lol what is a good light brand that is relatively lower priced but not CF?

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I am a weakling, so I need a light bike lol what is a good light brand that is relatively lower priced but not CF?

general rule of bike parts - light, strong, cheap, choose any 2.
you want light and cheap it's not going to be a strong bike.

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Originally posted by tubby general rule of bike parts - light, strong, cheap, choose any 2. you want light and cheap it's not going to be a strong bike.

Well I am aware that light and cheap = weak. I am no dumb bumblefuck from middle-of-nowhere, oklahoma. I understand you get what you pay for, but there are always things that are a good bargain for what they are.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.