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Originally posted by Krypton Devotion to a politician!! HA!! Who are you hardline Republicans always referring to when talking about the "glory days"!? RONALD REAGAN. Reaganites. Reagan Conservatives. So liberals can't have their #1 guy? Right-wing hypocrisy at it's best..

look, Krypton. i'm not saynig it's wrong to be devoted to a politician or a candidate (jeez you can be so dense sometimes). most of us that care have a horse in this race. any race really, if we care about it. just don't make yourself look like a fool doing it.

...and if you don't care what you look like, which is a completely valid POV, at least don't set yourself up for major disappointment basing your assessment on the idea that there is nothing that will stand in his way. thats all

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Originally posted by Krypton LOL, why don't the our fellow 30%er Bush lover's do the same??

A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

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Originally posted by The17sss A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

I'm pretty sure that most liberals are pissed off at this Congress more than you are... that's not exactly a fair comparison.

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Originally posted by The17sss A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

i thought Pelosi's Congress was in the single digits?

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Originally posted by Krypton DUH! Where did I say they do? Am I forbidden to talk about world opinion of our leadership?

obviously i know you understand that, i was being a smart-ass. you made it sound like world opinion is an important factor even though it has been clear from the past that the world opinion of american leaders is mostly irrelevant in american politics.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i thought Pelosi's Congress was in the single digits?

No, it's held steady between 14-16%... however, the GOP delegation is currently in single digits.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov No, it's held steady between 14-16%...

really? July 08 Rasmussen >LINK<

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however, the GOP delegation is currently in single digits.

really? they do co Congressional polling by delegation?

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Originally posted by Krypton LOL, why don't the our fellow 30%er Bush lover's do the same??

Dunno - I certainly couldn't vote for the guy.

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Originally posted by Q5echo look, Krypton. i'm not saynig it's wrong to be devoted to a politician or a candidate (jeez you can be so dense sometimes). most of us that care have a horse in this race. any race really, if we care about it. just don't make yourself look like a fool doing it. ...and if you don't care what you look like, which is a completely valid POV, at least don't set yourself up for major disappointment basing your assessment on the idea that there is nothing that will stand in his way. thats all

Point taken..

I was really making more of a political assessment. The support he has is not just domestic. It's global. What other candidate has anything close to "Obamania"? He has far more money, from GRASSROOTS supporters. He's characteristics are young, charming, charismatic. Some say like JFK. The hype surrounding him is unprecedented. He promises "change". Obama's campaign managers are PURE GENIUS. If I were running a marketing campaign, these are the people I'de want to hire! I also have to take into account the Democratic sweep of both houses of Congress. My truly honest assessment is, I can't see how the Democrats (Obama) won't win the executive office. That's not coming from my "devotion" to him. That's what I believe is a valid political analysis. And I put money on that!

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Originally posted by The17sss A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

goddam i hate that statistic; it's one of the most meaningless ones bantered about.

if you look at people rating their own representatives, it's bound to be higher. for instance Nancy Pelosi is 51%. (source). i would guess that it's the same for all if not most of the representatives, otherwise they wouldn't have been elected. duh!

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Last edited by Spacey Orange on Jul-23-2008 at 08:06

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Originally posted by Q5echo really? July 08 Rasmussen >LINK< really? they do co Congressional polling by delegation?

Meh, I was thinking of July's Gallup poll.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108856/C...cordLow-14.aspx

But it does appear I was wrong - the GOP has overtaken the Dems in popularity in the last month.

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what happened to your love affair with ron paul, krypton? or do you only like it when you back a winner?

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