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Originally posted by idoru
It all depends. At home when recording a demo I'll plan it out and mix it maybe two times before I record it. Or if I'm spinning randomly at home and have had an idea or two for some transitions during the day, then I'll do that.
Spinning out is different. I'll play what works in that club at that time. Once in a while, if I have a certain flow going I might say to myself, "Hey, these next two or three tracks sounded great when I spun them the other night, let's try that!" and I've found that, as long as they fit with the flow I'd had going, then it will work.
Outside of that, planning out an entire set for a club setting and praying to God that everybody likes it doesn't really work.
Jul-24-2008 23:37
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
Yeah "live" is one of the most ambiguous terms in DJing.
Does it mean:
Recorded in a club?
Done on decks rather than arranged on PC software?
Done on Ableton Live?
Played on live instruments? (possibly in conjunction with Ableton, but not necessarily)
Happening out at this very moment? (e.g. live radio)
Or, as the original poster has used it to mean: Arranged on-the-fly as opposed to being pre-planned.
live means recorded in one go, just using deejay equipment, with no editing. basically not done in mixmeister or ableton arrangement view with post-editing, no retakes, etc
planning is another thing. a lot of deejays have some idea of what they want to play out regardless if it's an entire tracklist or just a vague idea about a vibe or some tracks they really want to test on a crowd.
whether or not it was played "in a club" doesn't really matter, since that definition is pretty vague anyways. if a set says "live @ X club, mm-dd-yyyy" it's live, and if it was recorded at a house party it's live too.
Jul-25-2008 01:09
DjWoody
Chingon
Registered: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles (OC) / Mexicali
Re: pre planned or live
Yes, LIVE is pretty vague, but in this particular case, I think the poster was asking about mixing live at a party or infront of a crowd.
I think he says that because he says GO OUT THERE AND MIX LIVE. Meaning, actually playing somewhere infront of a crowd.
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Originally posted by Dj.neelzo
Hey i got a question, do ya'll pre plan your sets or do you just go out there and mix live?
Jul-25-2008 01:18
Dj.neelzo
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2008
Location: Melbourne
yeah as some1 put it, playing on-the-fly.. thts what i meant by live
Jul-25-2008 08:03
stan229
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Usually only do preplanned when I'm recording a demo otherwise do it on the fly
Jul-25-2008 12:21
DJ Blitzkrieg
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Alpharetta, GA
The best way is to know a general outline of how your set will go but other than that you just need to know your collection and be able to mix in any song that fits and that will get a good response from the crowd. Practice mixing with your entire collection and you'll have a dangerous arsenal.
Jul-25-2008 16:42
elFreak
Blood Diamonds and Salsa
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: With Juan Pachanga Eating Tacos. Ah Ha Si Mi Gusta.
if you wing it, not only will you enjoy yourself more (imo) but the likelihood that the set sounds stagnant will be less. Sometimes big shifts and chances pay big rewards and add character to a set. If you can mix on the fly successfully, you can play anywhere. As someone mentioned, it is always good to have track combos you know work for the big moments when pulling off that insane mix/mash are appropriate but work the people up for that slowly instead of just pounding them out left and right. A dancefloor will not constantly give you big pops, but if you spread them out over the night it will make your set more memorable without tiring out the floor.
Originally posted by elFreak
if you wing it, not only will you enjoy yourself more (imo) but the likelihood that the set sounds stagnant will be less. Sometimes big shifts and chances pay big rewards and add character to a set. If you can mix on the fly successfully, you can play anywhere. As someone mentioned, it is always good to have track combos you know work for the big moments when pulling off that insane mix/mash are appropriate but work the people up for that slowly instead of just pounding them out left and right. A dancefloor will not constantly give you big pops, but if you spread them out over the night it will make your set more memorable without tiring out the floor.
IMO
Depends what crowd you're playing dude. This advice works wonders for somewhere like Weekend Club I bet...but Pacha NYC probably wants big electro drops every 5 minutes and a 6 minute breakdown here and there for the punters. And those knobs playing huge festivals can play the exact same set for 4 months before anyone starts to notice...
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Jul-25-2008 18:14
nchs09
Traceaddict in training
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum
quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Depends what crowd you're playing dude. This advice works wonders for somewhere like Weekend Club I bet...but Clovis probably wants big electro drops every 5 minutes and a 6 minute breakdown here and there for the punters. And those knobs playing huge festivals can play the exact same set for 4 months before anyone starts to notice...
fixed!!
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
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Jul-25-2008 18:17
elFreak
Blood Diamonds and Salsa
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: With Juan Pachanga Eating Tacos. Ah Ha Si Mi Gusta.
yeah but i'm talking about a smart audience that never uses the words bro.