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LatinLover
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That means you agree?


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Atmos
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Originally posted by Kinezi
I find these 'progress' declarations totally pointless, he went to war with Iraq with clear set objectives, to smoke out evil Saddam Hussein and to destroy his deadly arsenal of Weapons of Mass Destruction. He had clearly acheived both these objectives, their is no more WMDs in Iraq and Saddam was hanged after free fare trial conducted by Iraqies (instead of biased Hague Tribulnal).. Mission objectives in Iraq was been accomplished in swift succession. I dont know what is more progress that is to be made there. As far as US is concerned their job is done.


Understand that after we completed those objectives, others lay before us. Leaving a country poor, with very little leadership, and a weak government gives al-Qaeda and the Taliban an incredible chance to jump in and manipulate the people, perhaps even set up a huge safe haven or worse.

That would have eventually resulted in another trip back to Iraq later on.

Look at it like this: If you go into a store and you break something, the right thing to do is to buy it. You can't just leave the store.

Old Post Aug-12-2008 15:38  United States
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Understand that after we completed those objectives, others lay before us. Leaving a country poor, with very little leadership, and a weak government gives al-Qaeda and the Taliban an incredible chance to jump in and manipulate the people, perhaps even set up a huge safe haven or worse.

That would have eventually resulted in another trip back to Iraq later on.

Look at it like this: If you go into a store and you break something, the right thing to do is to buy it. You can't just leave the store.


Or to put it in Bush and the neocon terms - you're a keystone cop who goes into the store with a fake search warrant because you think the store has been hiding something illegal, break everything you see, pretend that it wasn't you who broke it but that it was kinda like that in the first place, or that the dirty evildoer neighbor actually broke it all instead, then you pay your evildoing neighbors to put the pieces back together with their spit instead of actually fixing the pieces with glue or replacing them altogether, continue to pretend it wasn't you who broke it and continue to pretend that things were never broken and terrific the whole entire fucking time, all the while moving the objectives around of what actually needs to be fixed (everything) and pretending those goalposts/objectives were never being moved in the first place, and then having the fucking audacity to mock and yell names at the kid across the street who told you that your search warrant was bullshit in the first place, that the whole time it was you who fucking broke everything, and how much of a ridiculous mess you created and are pretending to "fix" things while actually setting things up for an even bigger mess later.


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LatinLover
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Or to put it in Bush and the neocon terms - you're a keystone cop who goes into the store with a fake search warrant because you think the store has been hiding something illegal, break everything you see, pretend that it wasn't you who broke it but that it was kinda like that in the first place, or that the dirty evildoer neighbor actually broke it all instead, then you pay your evildoing neighbors to put the pieces back together with their spit instead of actually fixing the pieces with glue or replacing them altogether, continue to pretend it wasn't you who broke it and continue to pretend that things were never broken and terrific the whole entire fucking time, all the while moving the objectives around of what actually needs to be fixed (everything) and pretending those goalposts/objectives were never being moved in the first place, and then having the fucking audacity to mock and yell names at the kid across the street who told you that your search warrant was bullshit in the first place, that the whole time it was you who fucking broke everything, and how much of a ridiculous mess you created and are pretending to "fix" things while actually setting things up for an even bigger mess later.


Your disturbed mind wont let you get pass the fact that the long term effect of this liberation will be the best thing that ever happened to Iraq. Decades from now Iraqis will be grateful that the US overthrew their dictator. Please Opus dont be so negative. We are in the right track now, and things are getting better for Iraq. And yet the far left still wont get past " why did we invade iraq". and they proclaim theirself the party of "change" and "progress" when clearly they are still living in the past.


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Kinezi
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You got one perspective on your store theory above.. here is another one:

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Originally posted by Atmos


Look at it like this: If you go into a store and you break something, the right thing to do is to buy it. You can't just leave the store.


Trust me, no matter how long you stay you can never buy back the things you broke in that store.. you broke something so precious that the store owner, workers and other customers just stare at you with anger and disbelief and they just want you to leave.. you cannot replace anything.. you have done enough damage now, just leave the store.


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It will be time to leave when the Iraqi forces are capable of securing their own country. Why, when we are so close, would you want to just leave? That would mean that all the sacrifices that have been made have been in vain.

Try telling the soldiers on the ground that all their efforts were useless. Thats the kind of mentality that many liberals bring that destroy morale and hope.

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Kinezi
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It will be time to leave when the Iraqi forces are capable of securing their own country. Why, when we are so close, would you want to just leave? That would mean that all the sacrifices that have been made have been in vain.

Try telling the soldiers on the ground that all their efforts were useless. Thats the kind of mentality that many liberals bring that destroy morale and hope.


Its been a close call ever since you entered Iraq.. I dont know how close is close now..

It takes bigger heart to accept defeat. Sacrifices have been made have been in vain.. USA who fought in Iraq got nothing over nothing... its a shallow war.. reasoning behind which is cheap accusations.

Soldiers on the ground that lost their lives were better off getting shot by red light violater on US streets.. all their efforts were useless.. and all their lives are useless now. Dead kids. What a waste.


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Atmos
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That's so fucking selfish of you to say. You're too fucking stuck behind the safe curtains you call your home and therefore talk with such ease.

Fuck off man.

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Kinezi
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And I am pretty sure the waste of 1000 US soilders lives means more to you than the waste of millions of lives of Iraqies..

But think from an Iraqi perspective for one minute.. what they must be thinking:

This kid was playing, going to school, he had a happy normal life.. but suddenly someone came in and destroyed his house, burnt the school and killed his dad.. over what? WMDs.. So now that kid thinks he has no school, no house, no dad, noone to pay for his food.. let alone toys.. half of his friends died.. his sister died too.. he watches his mother screaming and crying and shouting and being insulted on streets all the time.. their is no dad to protect his vulnerable mother anymore.. agony.. so what does this kid do now? I say fuck life.. kill.


And there is like atleast 1000 such kid in every damn fucking town in Iraq.


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Krypton
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Your disturbed mind wont let you get pass the fact that the long term effect of this liberation will be the best thing that ever happened to Iraq. Decades from now Iraqis will be grateful that the US overthrew their dictator. Please Opus dont be so negative. We are in the right track now, and things are getting better for Iraq. And yet the far left still wont get past " why did we invade iraq". and they proclaim theirself the party of "change" and "progress" when clearly they are still living in the past.


100,000 dead Iraqis, 4000 dead Americans, 1 million wounded, and 5 million refugees is the right track??


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