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Originally posted by Dilmeet Do you know if ableton has a feature where you are recording you can simultaneously see what bar you are approaching?

I'm not sure if this is what you are asking, but Ableton has the current bar number listed at the top of the grid in the arrange window.

You can also import the WAV of a track yo like and see which bars everything drops at if you want to get a general idea of track structure.

Like others have said, use this as a guideline only. What's correct is what feels right for your particular track.

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Originally posted by palm then u have a winner u play for yourself right?

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Structure

The previous poster is correct telling you about bars etc. What helped me when i first started and im still learning is this#

Trance masterclass computer music#

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/page...m_tutorial_pdfs


Its important to note that although the creative process can take many forms and should not have rules. Their are some rules you should not break or your track will sound odd. Try for instance dropping a melody in on the 15th bar, Or a cymbal on the off beat trance arrangement is simple and several people have commented on trying not to be typical.

I think that the structure as long as its not crazy should be a little typical. how annoying is it when a song builds and builds and your on the dancefloor and your ready to have it then instead of dropping the producer has put an extra few bars in. This i think lowers the emotion of a song

If you really want the typical way to make trance. A good starting point is the dance music manual

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dance-Music...s/dp/0240519159

500 ish pages of everything you need to know in easy to understand language.

Hope this helps

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@Dilmeet:

If you are searching for some structure in you track, this is something I did:
Import someone else's track into your sequencers and listen to at what bar it does what, it really helped me.
And I didn't copy it exactly, but it helped me completing my arrangements.

And I don't think there are rules, if creativity is bounded by rules, it's not creative any more. As said before, try to do what's best for your track.

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