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Originally posted by Lira Wait, Russia is not even communist any more, what exactly is your point?

Thats not the point, they did sterotype it when they were communist.

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Originally posted by Kinezi 5. Democracy: Its the only solution!! Zimbabwe is fucked up because of democracy.

Actually, Zimbabwe is not f*cked up because of democracy. It's f*cked up because Mugabe won't allow democracy, but not even that. He is one of the worst leaders in the history of the world. If democracy were to run its course, he would no longer be in power. Mugabe is one of the last Strong Men of Africa. The tyrants which emerged out of African nationalism.

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Originally posted by Krypton Actually, Zimbabwe is not f*cked up because of democracy. It's f*cked up because Mugabe won't allow democracy, but not even that. He is one of the worst leaders in the history of the world. If democracy were to run its course, he would no longer be in power. Mugabe is one of the last Strong Men of Africa. The tyrants which emerged out of African nationalism.

Mark it on the calendar - I'm agreeing with Krypton

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Originally posted by Kinezi Thats not the point, they did sterotype it when they were communist.

Unlike who?

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Originally posted by Krypton Actually, Zimbabwe is not f*cked up because of democracy. It's f*cked up because Mugabe won't allow democracy, but not even that. He is one of the worst leaders in the history of the world. If democracy were to run its course, he would no longer be in power. Mugabe is one of the last Strong Men of Africa. The tyrants which emerged out of African nationalism.

Oh c'mon.

I know it's in vogue to be critical of the Zimbabwean political process, but the fact is that the people of Zimbabwe had a free, democratic choice: to elect Mugabe or to be gunned down pitilessly in the street by Mugabe's marauding henchmen. To suggest that this isn't "democracy" just because it doesn't fit into your narrow, "western democratic" tradition is to engage in exactly the sort of stereotyping that Kinezi was talking about.

I mean, maybe these people actually like being murdered for their political affiliation. Did you ever stop to think about that?

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Originally posted by Renegade Oh c'mon. I know it's in vogue to be critical of the Zimbabwean political process, but the fact is that the people of Zimbabwe had a free, democratic choice: to elect Mugabe or to be gunned down pitilessly in the street by Mugabe's marauding henchmen. To suggest that this isn't "democracy" just because it doesn't fit into your narrow, "western democratic" tradition is to engage in exactly the sort of stereotyping that Kinezi was talking about. I mean, maybe these people actually like being murdered for their political affiliation. Did you ever stop to think about that?

NO..

I wonder what would have happened if Zimbabwe was one of the top 10 oil producers. Might the Bush White House have invaded, we don't know..

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Originally posted by Lira Unlike who?

Unlike China, India, Africans and Muslims in Middle East.. noone gave a fuck about communism and didnt consider it something 'bad' as opposed to US and Western EU propaganda against communist form of governance.

People are really starting to post all their bullshit in this thread.. looks like I will have to close this for now..