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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Yeah lets blame them for their current conditions,I mean it is not like the government had anyting to do with it right?


Where have you been in the past 20-30 years?? Under a rock??

The government (at least the Canadian Government) is constantly giving huge consessions for past government decisions!
Billions of dollars in fact - do some research man!!


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hardcore trancer
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Where have you been in the past 20-30 years?? Under a rock??

The government (at least the Canadian Government) is constantly giving huge consessions for past government decisions!
Billions of dollars in fact - do some research man!!




where were that years before that??when they actually needed help?why were the islolated from our society?


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Atmos
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Ok...im not too sure statistically of what I'm about to say but I remember hearing this sometime ago.

I heard the thousands or millions of acres undrilled by the oil companies was and is being bought by the oil companies without their knowledge of the possibility of oil, cause you know oil isnt everywhere under land or sea. So thats one way the government brings in money from taxing property for the oil companies. So the oil companies arent able to drill everywhere of those acres, yet their still paying for land they will never use but just have.

Therefore, offshore drilling and drilling in ANWR are all great options for them because there is definately oil there not being drilled.

Im not picking sides or anything, but I like to know both sides of the argument.

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Dervish
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Extracting from shale creates 10 times the amount of carbon as extracting normal oil while sand takes 3 times as much.

I'm guessing it costs similar amounts more too.

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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
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Oil companies should drill the land they have now and shut up. The government meanwhile should be giving all the subsidies the oil companies get to alternative energy projects. Within 10 year, we should be getting 50% of our energy from non-fossil fuel sources.


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How bout' that nuclear energy then?

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Krypton
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How bout' that nuclear energy then?


What about it?


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Dervish
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Within 10 year, we should be getting 50% of our energy from non-fossil fuel sources.


That is the singular most "picked from the air" figure I have ever seen.

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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

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Originally posted by Dervish
That is the singular most "picked from the air" figure I have ever seen.


It is, which is why I said "should", because that's what I want. I want a Manhattan Project of renewable energy. I want a race to 50% renewable energy capacity. I want to stop thinking, "where can we get our next oil fix." I want to be thinking, "How can we rehabilitate our economy away from oil addiction.."


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

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I want a Manhattan Project of renewable energy.


we already have...it was called the Manhattan Project.

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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

quote:
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we already have...it was called the Manhattan Project.


Smartie pants, you know what I mean..


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Oil companies should drill the land they have now and shut up.


For someone that supposedly loves the market so much, youre awfully critical of the logical outcomes of a capitalist market economy


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