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Ry Thomas
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Someone on another forum said that the best way to choose which order to put the EQ and compressor in is to work out whether your doing subtractive or shaping EQ, if shaping (additive) then put it after so that the compressor doesn't false trigger because of your EQ enhancements. If using subtractive EQ, then put it before, since you'll be cutting the level. I thought it was really well put so maybe it'll help you guys Still does come down to personal preference though.




This is all very true, i always have my compressor as the last effect in my chain though, this is like you say down to preference though. Cool tutorial. Wish i found something worded like it when i first came across compressors


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Thanks for all the feedback guys, good to see its helped some of you


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What I dont understand is how all people say compressing gives more punch, more fatness when all it does is reducing the volume (by the ratio) after exceeding the Threshold dB, thats something I cant understand after reading loads of articles about compression. If someone could give some examples on when to use a compression or explain me how this works, cause I still cant get it.

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What I dont understand is how all people say compressing gives more punch, more fatness when all it does is reducing the volume (by the ratio) after exceeding the Threshold dB, thats something I cant understand after reading loads of articles about compression.

Some people say this because in their eyes "fatter" is simply a synonym for "louder," and compression can be used to let you turn up the gain on a track without clipping.

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kitphillips
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quote:
Originally posted by pqpedroland
What I dont understand is how all people say compressing gives more punch, more fatness when all it does is reducing the volume (by the ratio) after exceeding the Threshold dB, thats something I cant understand after reading loads of articles about compression. If someone could give some examples on when to use a compression or explain me how this works, cause I still cant get it.


Well, if you read the section titled "PUNCH" you'll understand that bit. As I said in the tutorial, it is counter intuitive, but easy to understand once you think about it.

Some people think compressors make sounds fatter for two reasons
1/ it makes the sounds louder, and these people are ignorant and think that louder is neccesarily phatter.
2/ analogue compressors do distort a bit at certain points, and this can give a pleasing warmth to things, making them sound fatter.

A few people were criticising me for this tutorial because I didn't really talk about buss compression. Buss compression is often referred to as adding "phatness", its basically where you create a mix buss and send all the tracks there, slapping a compressor on the end of the signal chain of that buss. Meaning that your compressing a whole bunch of tracks all together. They were saying you could get close to a "master" with it, meaning you don't need a limiter on the master.

I really don't agree with this way of working, but some people like it. It seems stupid to me to squash dynamics so much at the point of the tracks that your getting master levels, since I always think that master levels should wait until the mastering engineer actually gets the track (even if that engineer is you.) These people were especially incensed that I said not to compress synths, since that was integral to the way they worked.
I'm mentioning all of this so that you know that there are other ways of working with compressors, which might explain what people mean by fatness a bit more accurately.


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