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Originally posted by ponsshin edit: I was also checking Alienware's stuff. Seems like they're really into the top quality manufacturing instead of the highest performance deal. Does anybody here own an Alienware?

Alienware is way overrated. You are basically paying twice what you should for a computer case with an alien led light on it. It's best to build it yourself. and buy the parts individualy.

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The only way you can justify 4500 is on a mac, because as far as I know, any RAM you get over 3GB will be wasted. Whereas, on a mac, I think you can get up to 8 GB, plus two quad cores. No PC will ever be able to live up to that. Also, as Echo said, buy two hard disks rather than one big one, since you'll get more performance. If you're not going for a mac, I'd limit myself to a budget of 2000 or less, since that'll mean to won't be forking out for the latest stuff, which will be overpriced and pointless. I use a PC by the way so I understand your reluctance to go mac, but if I had that much money to spend, I'd spend it where it'll do the most good.

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Originally posted by kitphillips The only way you can justify 4500 is on a mac, because as far as I know, any RAM you get over 3GB will be wasted.

Thats the truth only for a 32bit OS. Any 64 bit os like Windows XP64 or Vista 64 support several terabyte of ram in theory.

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Originally posted by kitphillips The only way you can justify 4500 is on a mac, because as far as I know, any RAM you get over 3GB will be wasted. Whereas, on a mac, I think you can get up to 8 GB, plus two quad cores. No PC will ever be able to live up to that. Also, as Echo said, buy two hard disks rather than one big one, since you'll get more performance. If you're not going for a mac, I'd limit myself to a budget of 2000 or less, since that'll mean to won't be forking out for the latest stuff, which will be overpriced and pointless. I use a PC by the way so I understand your reluctance to go mac, but if I had that much money to spend, I'd spend it where it'll do the most good.

mac and pc uses the exact same hardware this days. vista can address more than 128 GB of memory.

but yes it makes no sense to buy the latest components as you'll have a much lower price/value ratio.

Yes, but look at the number of applications and drivers supported by Vista 64 bit Last I looked there were real issues. Whereas I think that Mac OSX is completely 64 bit, and almost all mac applications seem to be universal binary. Hence my recommendation.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Yes, but look at the number of applications and drivers supported by Vista 64 bit Last I looked there were real issues. Whereas I think that Mac OSX is completely 64 bit, and almost all mac applications seem to be universal binary. Hence my recommendation.

all my hardware is supported by vista 64

Ah perhaps I'm mistaken? I thought there were a bunch of VSTs and soundcards and things that weren't... But maybe thats not true anymore. I'd still be very wary of 64 bit windows since its so new and probably poorly implemented, whereas Mac has been ALL 64 bit for a few years now. Just my opinion...

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Nobody needs a sever grade Mac for music production. Huge waste of money.

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Originally posted by thecYrus mac and pc uses the exact same hardware this days.

You mean you CAN build a PC with the same hardware as a Mac, right? There's no standard in PC hardware like there is with Mac so there's really no way to say PC's are using the exact same hardware.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell You mean you CAN build a PC with the same hardware as a Mac, right? There's no standard in PC hardware like there is with Mac so there's really no way to say PC's are using the exact same hardware.

i said that Apple builds mac with the same components which are available to any other manufacturer like HP, DELL, Lenovo, ...

Haha, I didn't mean to start a PC vs Mac thing here, I'm really just talking about who has the support for the best hardware possible, since if your spending 4500 on a machine, you want the OS to be able to access all the hardware you've spent that cash on right And CPU and RAM are the best things to have for production.

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