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Originally posted by trewqy Tonys fucking your girlfriend right now.

i wish i could watch , can quantum help me?

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Originally posted by trewqy Tonys done. You can come in now

ah balls , my fantasies in peices now

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Originally posted by adi_hanson The above example states no more than:- Is there sound when theres noone to hear it Will my money exist before the ATM check If i open that door will i find the girlfriend with tony from next door

No...Subatomic particles have superposition. That is, when no one is measuring the particles, they inhabit all possible states at the same time.

A tree falling in the forest still makes sound even if no one is around to hear it because we know that when an object crashes against another on earth, it vibrates the surrounding air, creating sound. The tree is not superpositioned to fall and not fall at the same time, or, make sound and not make sound at the same time. Anyways, trees are not subatomic particles, and so the state of the tree can only be one state, easily measured to be in one position at one time, unlike subatomic particles, which can inhabit multiple positions at the same time, as long as they are not measured.

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Originally posted by Krypton No...Subatomic particles have superposition. That is, when no one is measuring the particles, they inhabit all possible states at the same time. A tree falling in the forest still makes sound even if no one is around to hear it because we know that when an object crashes against another on earth, it vibrates the surrounding air, creating sound. The tree is not superpositioned to fall and not fall at the same time, or, make sound and not make sound at the same time. Anyways, trees are not subatomic particles, and so the state of the tree can only be one state, easily measured to be in one position at one time, unlike subatomic particles, which can inhabit multiple positions at the same time, as long as they are not measured.

i tried telling this lady on the bus exactly that but it was of no use

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Originally posted by Krypton A tree falling in the forest still makes sound even if no one is around to hear it because we know that when an object crashes against another on earth, it vibrates the surrounding air, creating sound. The tree is not superpositioned to fall and not fall at the same time, or, make sound and not make sound at the same time. Anyways, trees are not subatomic particles, and so the state of the tree can only be one state, easily measured to be in one position at one time, unlike subatomic particles, which can inhabit multiple positions at the same time, as long as they are not measured.

The thing I see wrong with this argument is that if matter is created of subatomic particles, at what level is it not in a flux of being? If the foundation of matter is capable, then matter itself should also be capable.

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Originally posted by Cetra³ The thing I see wrong with this argument is that if matter is created of subatomic particles, at what level is it not in a flux of being? If the foundation of matter is capable, then matter itself should also be capable.

The tree in my example does not move at or close to the speed of light. Atoms behave at speeds at or close to the speed of light. At the speed of light, normal physics of large mass objects break down and no longer apply. So answering your question, "at what level is superposition not applied?" I would say, it depends on the speed of the object, and whether that speed is at the speed of light.

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Speed of light relative to what?

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Originally posted by Cetra³ Speed of light relative to what?

The object being observed. There are as of yet, two mathematical models which describe what we know about the universe. One is Newtonian/Einstein physics, which can predict the behavior of large objects such as planets and stars. The other is quantum mechanics, which can predict the behavior of atoms, molecules, and subatomic particles. But neither model can predict the other's problems. According to Newtonian physics, all atoms should collapse in on themselves, but this obviously isn't the case. Newtonian physics breaks down at the speed of the light, and so atoms, whose parts operate at the speed of light, can not be described with any accuracy by Newton's physics. Quantum mechanics must do this.

Only on the quantum level is superposition possible. You will never be able to observe any large object be in two places at once. Unless your Jesus...

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Originally posted by Krypton According to Newtonian physics, all atoms should collapse in on themselves, but this obviously isn't the case. Newtonian physics breaks down at the speed of the light

solution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light

Maybe add some 'unfortunately' undetectable Ether into the equation, and wala, the SuspicionV Theory to Everything.

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