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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN china isn't communist. its state capitalism.

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Originally posted by NoError ding ding ding

haha. you really from hobart?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha. you really from hobart?

Yes. Margate

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Originally posted by Krypton So what you're really saying is eliminating MORE regulations, lowering taxes FURTHER, and continuing the disastrous economic and foreign policy trends of the last 7 years is BETTER than giving the Democrats a chance to turn the country around? I assume you make more than $250k a year. Are you shivering in your boots?

Nah I'm not saying that man. I'm just saying if you hate the state of affairs with an expanded govt., regardless of the party, why would you want it to grow even larger, which is what would happen with a Dem. president? Aren't you getting a little taste of how the Democrat party will "turn things around" after the last 2 years of a new Dem. controlled congress doing absolutely fucking nothing and garnering the lowest approval rating in its history? Gas was $2.33 when they came in, saying they would immediately work on a policy to give relief at the pump

Look the democrats are just terrible and republicans are the only way to roll. Isn't it obvious guys?


Where would we be now if Gore had been elected?


FUCKED!


TOTALLY FUCKED AYE!

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by NoError Yes. Margate

no kidding. kingston.

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Originally posted by The17sss Nah I'm not saying that man. I'm just saying if you hate the state of affairs with an expanded govt., regardless of the party, why would you want it to grow even larger, which is what would happen with a Dem. president? Aren't you getting a little taste of how the Democrat party will "turn things around" after the last 2 years of a new Dem. controlled congress doing absolutely fucking nothing and garnering the lowest approval rating in its history? Gas was $2.33 when they came in, saying they would immediately work on a policy to give relief at the pump

What can a democrat-controlled congress do when they barely hold the majority, and the president is radical conservative extremist who will veto anything that goes against his agenda. There is no way the Democrats could do anything like end the war in Iraq. Also, you can't blame Democrats for the high gas prices, because the current up-trend in gas prices began in 2003 when Mr. Bush decided to invade Iraq. This is 3 years before the Democrats gained control of the Congress. Also, the low approval rating of congress includes Republicans too! Democrats can't end the war, Republicans just suck. Hence, Congress is playing politics as usual.

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Originally posted by Krypton What can a democrat-controlled congress do when they barely hold the majority, and the president is radical conservative extremist who will veto anything that goes against his agenda. There is no way the Democrats could do anything like end the war in Iraq. Also, you can't blame Democrats for the high gas prices, because the current up-trend in gas prices began in 2003 when Mr. Bush decided to invade Iraq. This is 3 years before the Democrats gained control of the Congress. Also, the low approval rating of congress includes Republicans too! Democrats can't end the war, Republicans just suck. Hence, Congress is playing politics as usual.

They can stop bills from passing?

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Originally posted by Sunsnail They can stop bills from passing?

They as in Republicans? Yes. They can filibuster, the president can veto, or really important bills require a 2/3 super-majority, which the Dems don't have. Also, BOTH houses of Congress must approve the same bill. You can imagine the gridlock of being a legislator...

But it's about time the 6 years of one party Republican rule is over. Now we're flip flopping to one party Democratic rule..

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Sorry 17ss..but you are completely wrong about China. China is a totalitarian state yes...but they are communist in name only. The government does NOT control the means of production. In fact, I would say they are much, much more capitalist than we are in America today. They have abandoned most of their old socialist policies and now embrace free markets and private property rights. We have been moving in the opposite direction for the past few decades which is why we are stagnating while China is booming.

As for Obama, yeah he has some bad ideas...but both parties in America are moving away from the ideas of economic freedom so we are indeed f*cked either way.. But to claim the republicans are somehow better than the dems..when Bush has grown NON-defense spending at almost 3X the rate Clinton grew it...When the republican majority in congress passed the largest expansion of the welfare state since LBJ's war on poverty...and when the "conservative" party pushed us into a completely unnecessary $500 billion war...is just farking ridiculous.

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Originally posted by The17sss my answer is... the dems run congress and control the money son! but don't deflect from the point about obama... this one isn't about the GOP

What was your point about Obama? That he realizes that even state capitalism is working better right now than Bush economic policies and under-investment in critical infrastructure?

Don't give me lectures about America's amazing infrastructure. I was on I-35W last August 2.

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