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RJT
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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
I don't understand the need for education to involve English (or any country's respective language) classes past the elementary level. I work with a fair amount of Asian immigrants/residents at work and my biggest problem is pronunciation, not with their choice of words.

When I'm with my mates, it makes no difference if they say "dude, there's a fire in you car" or "ah yes, dear good friend, there appears to be a source of hazardous material spewing from the ventilation ducts, slightly resembling the chemical reaction of combustion" (/proceeds to adjust top hat and monocle/)


I'd just like it if we didn't reinforce people not using real words to speak.


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KiNeTiC ENeRgY
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I'd just like it if we didn't reinforce people not using real words to speak.


+1

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Moongoose
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Yes, absolutely. Schools that teach Ebonics should be burned to the ground for contributing to the dumbing down of a generation.

The worst part is that they're basically teaching it in communities where kids could really benefit from actually learning how to use the English language properly - teaching Ebonics seems like basically saying "Oh, you guys are never going to get it anyway - so let's just let you have your own language. You're never leaving the neighborhood anyway."

What a crock of shit.



Wait, im quite tired right now so i might be misunderstanding all fo this but the first post wasn't a joke? There actually are school that teach people to talk like that?


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I fucking hate it when I have to talk to a black person or hear one and they can't say the word "ask" properly. WTF it's not a hard word to pronounce. You were born on America, its not "aks" or "axe" it's ask u fucking idiot.


It's not "u" it's "you," you fucking idiot.

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RJT
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Originally posted by Moongoose
Wait, im quite tired right now so i might be misunderstanding all fo this but the first post wasn't a joke? There actually are school that teach people to talk like that?


Yes. Several.


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Originally posted by RJT
I don't.

Feel free to let me know how I may have confused you into thinking I did.

Edit: Also, I think the same argument against use of Ebonics can be attached to the lowering of standards for a college education. A college degree is as easy, if not easier to obtain than a high school diploma at this point - and it completely devalues the degree.

The continued lowering of educational standards all around is a bit of a sticking point for me.


I didn't mean you, I meant in general when people use the term ebonics as if it's only African-Americans who use non-words like "imma" etc.

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I didn't mean you, I meant in general when people use the term ebonics as if it's only African-Americans who use non-words like "imma" etc.


For the record, I don't actually think that.

White people also say "nigga"... that isn't gonna stop me from referring to it as part of "ebonics"

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I'd just like it if we didn't reinforce people not using real words to speak.


what son?


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Athough Ebonics is the "Creole" of US English, I do not in any way, shape, or form, support the use or teaching of the language.


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Moongoose
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Yes. Several.


And the reason that some civic minded person has not bombed these places amd levelled them to the ground is? Seriously, that's just wrong.


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And the reason that some civic minded person has not bombed these places amd levelled them to the ground is? Seriously, that's just wrong.


Because as much as I love my country and feel there is real promise here, we are still a land full of complacent idiots who see the news say "Huh, that's so weird", and then go back to watching "My Name is Earl" and eating their TV dinners.

I just made myself sad.


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Originally posted by david.michael
For the record, I don't actually think that.

White people also say "nigga"... that isn't gonna stop me from referring to it as part of "ebonics"

I wouldn't say "nigga" is a part of Ebonics, as it is more of a substitute for nigger than anything else. A softer version in essence.


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