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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Lol...are u serious? Maybe u should get him involved in another hobby, like rock climbing, or something related to where u live. At 13, I would not be pushing a young boy into the DJ world. With his background, he needs a more positive environment.


What world am I pushing him into? I'm helping him get into something he was already in to - I'd really like to know why you think I shouldn't be?



There are douchebag rock climbers out there too you know.


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KiNeTiC ENeRgY
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What world am I pushing him into? I'm helping him get into something he was already in to - I'd really like to know why you think I shouldn't be?



This has failure and drug addiction all over it, for starters. Don't believe me, I don't really care and don't need your shit =)

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RJT
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This has failure and drug addiction all over it, for starters. Don't believe me, I don't really care and don't need your shit =)


What the hell?



So basically you're being an asshole just for the sake of being an asshole?

Nice one, I hope you're entertained.


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david.michael
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Location: Dayton, OH, USA

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
This has failure and drug addiction all over it, for starters. Don't believe me, I don't really care and don't need your shit =)


Yeah, teach a kid to play guitar and he'll blow his brains out like Kurt Cobain too.

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KiNeTiC ENeRgY
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Boca Raton

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What the hell?



So basically you're being an asshole just for the sake of being an asshole?

Nice one, I hope you're entertained.


Not really entertained, or trying to be an ass. if u see it that way well that's your issue. I would not steer any young kids in my family into this world. You should know better, but maybe not. Don't be so defensive either, it's my opinion on an open board.

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epdarks
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Hobby, yes, career path, no.

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Hobby, yes, career path, no.


By the time he is even able to decide on this as a career path, he's a big enough boy to make his own decisions and Uncle Robby isn't going to cram any meth down his lungs.

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RJT
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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Not really entertained, or trying to be an ass. if u see it that way well that's your issue. I would not steer any young kids in my family into this world. You should know better, but maybe not. Don't be so defensive either, it's my opinion on an open board.


Your opinion is seriously fucked if you think encouraging someone to get into DJ'ing at a young age means steering them into anything other than learning how to DJ.

You're basically saying that getting someone into DJ'ing is going to ruin their lives for absolutely no reason what-so-ever, which really leads me to believe your participation in this thread serves no purpose other than to be a dickhead troll.

It isn't about being defensive, it's calling it like I see it. You have raised absolutely no good reason to support your vehement opposition to teaching kids how to DJ.

Edit: And just to clear up any confusion - I never had any intention of telling this kid he could make a career out of DJ'ing. I can't imagine why anyone would think I would.


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Fl@k Monkey
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Brisbane, QLD

Go for it i say!

Agree with teaching him from tracktor/virtual dj .. Would be a great way to visually learn the very basics about how music works. Show him the difference between 120-125 songs and 130-135 songs and explain how it just dosent work to mix fast songs/slower songs etc..

Introduce him to the setup, explain the functions of it all.. CUEing is the main lesson here.. Put two of the same tracks on and let him go for awhile.. jump in every once in a bit to help out.. Go from there..

I think its a great thing your doing, Wish anyone was able to visually teach me howto DJ but all i got was a few pointers over IM and a few links for DJ applications.. Was an absolute trainwreck.. Kept trying to mix trance with happy hardcore ??? Where the fuck were you 6 yrs ago huh!?


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Zoso
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Dirty South, United States

Jesus Christ, I'm nearly 32 and I don't know the difference between Chicago House and Detroit Techno!

I like the idea of something like Virtual DJ for starters. It gives a good visual representation of what is going on in a particular track, and it would give him the option of focusing on things like phrasing and EQing since it would auto beat match (should he so choose).

Now, with that said, there is NO substitute for standing behind some actual kit and hammering out tunes. I know I wore out Virtual DJ before I got my turntables, and even though it was fun it's a poor substitute for tactile sensation.

With so much going on in the digital world these days, I can't help but wonder if a laptop + midi controller is the way to go for someone just starting out. Ultra portable and virtually unlimited access to tunes. I'm replacing the bulk of my vinyl with mp3s now, and I can see this is probably the route I should have gone.

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RJT
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Thanks loads for the suggestions guys! I actually think a combination of Traktor/Decks might work best, and have been meaning to invest in Scratch for a while, so maybe I'll do that soon.

That way, I figure I can ignore the "sync" function all together, and explain pitch and beatmatching with the waveform display as a visual aid.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

If his beats slip put his hand to the stove.


It works so well.


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