Religion is simply a form of brainwashing.I really dont see any benefits of it at all.It has caused nothing but death and destruction.

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The average person seems far too stupid to make ethical decisions without someone telling them what to do. I know it makes me sound like some kind of snobbish elitist but there is no way you can deny the fact that the "majority" is incredibly dumb.

By no way am I saying that religion is good, I myself would love to see a world without it but if anything is going to govern the behaviour of the idiots let it be the law.

"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." - Einstein

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Originally posted by Krypton We can't forget that Islam was a harbinger of science, technology, and order while the Europeans were wallowing in their serfdom Dark Ages. While Europeans were burning witches, Islam's mosques were rising grander than anything Europe had at the time. Mosques served as hospitals, academies, etc.

Islamic author Omar Nasiri frankly stated that one of al-Qaeda's reasons for terrorism is that they are ashamed of what the great Islamic world state has become, forced to use western weapons in their own wars where once they were the pinnacle of technology.

...but let's not make this about Islam. I would argue that Christianity has been far more destructive throughout the ages.

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Originally posted by spacechica wait, do you have an incurable disease and are you seeking salvation?

will you kindly STFU


As for the topic, i've seen how religion can be of benefit in the area of death. It may be seen as a coping mechanism to believe in an afterlife, heaven, reincarnation ect. Ultimately if it makes the person a little bit happier, wheres the wrong in that?
I've nursed buddhist/catholics/muslim people dying and seen how the families cope and accept death. Whereas i have noticed people who don't believe in anything find it extremely hard to come to terms with dying/death.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Islamic author Omar Nasiri frankly stated that one of al-Qaeda's reasons for terrorism is that they are ashamed of what the great Islamic world state has become, forced to use western weapons in their own wars where once they were the pinnacle of technology. ...but let's not make this about Islam. I would argue that Christianity has been far more destructive throughout the ages.

I was just bringing up an instance in which religion has benefited the world. Islam has had its golden age and its long over.

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Originally posted by narcism will you kindly STFU As for the topic, i've seen how religion can be of benefit in the area of death. It may be seen as a coping mechanism to believe in an afterlife, heaven, reincarnation ect. Ultimately if it makes the person a little bit happier, wheres the wrong in that? I've nursed buddhist/catholics/muslim people dying and seen how the families cope and accept death. Whereas i have noticed people who don't believe in anything find it extremely hard to come to terms with dying/death.

1. Some people on their deathbed realize it doesn't matter. Everything that has form is temporary. (Buddhism) Even a devout Christian could perhaps suddenly achieve enlightenment and understand that nothing based on form is permanent.

2. Other people are so controlled by their ego (which is obsessed with form and attachment) that their ego resists losing their body til the end. Although, I'll bet right before they die, they realize the truth since their thought (ego) processes are stopped.

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3. Also, some religious people could outwardly appear happy because they've convinced themselves they're going to "Heaven" or what have you. Where, on the inside they're possibly thinkging "What if I haven't done enough good to go to Heaven."

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Bullshit.

As an atheist I realise that the person dying has ended their existence and they are no longer with me. People cry because of regrets. Nothing else.

The only reason i cried when my grandma died was because I didnt spend more time with her before she died of heart attack. She took care of me when I was young and I always wanted to repay her for what shes done.

But standing beside her body, surprisingly I didnt weep a single tear after I bawled my eyes out when I first heard the news. I knew her existence is over and shes not suffering anymore. The end.

Yes, you should feel sad when someones gone. Its normal, even animals have sad emotions when a loved one is gone. But animals know when to stop crying and get over it.Thats life and I think religious people cant/have a harder time to comprehend that fact.

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Originally posted by -FSP- everything is good and bad. just look at everything in the world. tru st0ry

i think i agree with this, there is potential good and bad in everything. I' don't really know what to think about God. I mean there really are so many unexplainable mysteries/phenomena accounted for throughout history and I think that God is just another one of these eternal questions that no one can really prove one way or another.
I think that there is many beneficial aspects of religion, but it is easily corrupted.

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