this article is great and gives respect to some of the leaders of the new school in LA. I totally agree, these guys are busting their asses trying to put LA back on the world map for techno. They've influenced my sound (podcast) tremendously.

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Originally posted by SVGmethod ya dood SB effin sux now for EDM. =(

Curly, we have to change that. John (Prime Mover) wants to throw an outdoor party. Let's get on it.

All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature.

After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I’ve learned:

This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction.

The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above.

http://www.InfamousPR.com

The anonymous writer named “Industry Boy” is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article.

I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag’s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue.

These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader.

The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes.

Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen.

Food for thought:

jour·nal·ism -
-noun-
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

ad·ver·tise·ment
-noun-
A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.

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Originally posted by katiekitty All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature. After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I’ve learned: This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction. The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above. http://www.InfamousPR.com The anonymous writer named “Industry Boy” is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article. I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag’s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue. These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader. The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes. Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen. Food for thought: jour·nal·ism - -noun- The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation. ad·ver·tise·ment -noun- A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.

I think we all pretty much know about all that, although Droog and Kazell didn't "pay" for it. Ali is Avalon's PR person, so he gets PR done Getting attention for Avalon residents is his job, and he did a good job by getting them in Mixmag and Beatportal.

The thing is, you can't make stuff like this up, even if you have a publicist working for you. Droog has been exploding in popularity thanks to Avalon, and Kazell has become even more popular ever since the Sasha & Digweed tour, so the job of the PR person is to say "Hey, check this out, you might want to write about these people".

Don't be so quick to "jump to conclusions mat"

There is nothing fabricated about the good times, it is a party atmosphere. I should know, I experience and love it; firsthand.

I'm glad people are hearing about it, because they help bring some of the best new talent at the moment, and getting great response.



looks like a good time to me! yea, I was there.
The proper point of PR is to promote and publicize with the general public. If nobody hears about it, you have a bad PR person.

Anyways you look at it, it is a coverage perspective.

Thanks for your charming insight into the inner workings of how a nightclub business works.

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Originally posted by katiekitty All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature. After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I’ve learned: This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction. The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above. http://www.InfamousPR.com The anonymous writer named “Industry Boy” is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article. I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag’s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue. These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader. The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes. Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen. Food for thought: jour·nal·ism - -noun- The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation. ad·ver·tise·ment -noun- A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.

Wow you really are on a smear campaign.

Signed up on TA to post this even though you posted it twice on the article comments? lol

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Originally posted by |Thrax| Don't be so quick to "jump to conclusions mat"

You can actually buy one!



Jump to conclusions mat

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Originally posted by katiekitty All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature. After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I’ve learned: This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction. The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above. http://www.InfamousPR.com The anonymous writer named “Industry Boy” is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article. I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag’s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue. These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader. The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes. Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen. Food for thought: jour·nal·ism - -noun- The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation. ad·ver·tise·ment -noun- A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.

actually its called an ADVERTORIAL.

I do agree though that there should have been a small disclaimer from the onset, specially since this article will be read quite a lot and some people will not realize that its actually a PR release.

cheers!

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Originally posted by katiekitty All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature. After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I’ve learned: This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction. The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above. http://www.InfamousPR.com The anonymous writer named “Industry Boy” is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article. I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag’s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue. These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader. The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes. Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen. Food for thought: jour·nal·ism - -noun- The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation. ad·ver·tise·ment -noun- A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.

PR setting up an interview?! THIS IS MADNESS!

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We had hoped that we wouldn’t have to dignify this attack with a response, particularly as the reader comments fairly seem to sort this issue out. However, it seems that KittyKatie wants to make sure this issue doesn’t die (i.e., reposting it when it fell off the front page and posting on other sites!) Given her continued efforts to spread these accusations, we feel a reply is necessary. KittyKatie is an anonymous poster, whom no one here knows. She has registered in the last few days for a number of other forums (e.g., tranceaddicts, djforums) in order to spread factually inaccurate comments. Her allegations aren’t based on any facts, but anonymous sources she won’t reveal and doesn’t cite. Simply put, she can’t substantiate her misrepresentations, and the facts are otherwise. Droog, Avalon, and Kazell never, as KittyKaie claims, “technically paid for this article,” nor have they ever paid a journalist in return for editorial content. Any accusations otherwise are unsubstantiated, incorrect and not true. Droog did in fact cover approximately $200 in hotel costs in order for Beatportal, at their request, to be able to afford to come out for the weekend to cover the Los Angeles dance music scene. This was the sole intent of the journalist’s visit, to provide a near real-time, ‘embedded’ perspective on dance music in Los Angeles. Because this was our only intent (as proven by the numerous introductions/interviews given to many other acts and promoters during a limited time period), it is upsetting (and frankly petty) that KittyKatie would rather level cheap shots at those this article highlights, rather than celebrate the spotlight it gives Los Angeles as a whole. To be clear, neither Beatportal nor the journalist received any payment prior to or following the article. No cash in the pocket, no advertising fee, no “for $1,000 we will get you a great story.” Droog had NO input in the editorial content; there was NEVER even a promise that a piece would be written. In the end, Droog had NO review of what was to be written, nor did we control the content. Beatportal’s journalist came out, covered the weekend’s events, and actually spent the majority of his time on his own agenda, with people he wanted to interview in L.A. More importantly, this is exactly how editorial is handled all the time in this industry, and how it has been handled for years: a club, promoter, DJ, or label wants to get media coverage of a special night, PR pitches the idea, covers the expenses, and hopes for a honestly positive piece. In the end, we never wanted anything more than legitimate exposure for what we see as a growing, vibrant scene in Los Angeles. The scene has a rich history going back years, and has been revitalized by a number of people and crews that we believe make it competitive with the very best in the world. Would we like Droog to be thought of as a group pushing this scene further, in hopes of making it even better? Of course! Do we think that we are single-handedly responsible? No way. There were a ton of people here before us, and there will be many more after. We love the music and the city (as we are sure even Kittykatie does), and are happy that Beatportal perceives it as we do, an exciting place with its best days ahead of it.

Si Se Puede!

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