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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN but to think that they routinely "spy" on websites like this one is ludicrous. but, you'll find plenty of nitwits here that will claim they do so to spread "disinfo". those people have penises hanging from their foreheads.

Paranoia does strangest things to the best of minds... including the growth of penises on the forehead .. lol

I'd be surprised if this forum wasn't monitored.

It's probably known to computer search bots that send off messages to human agents when certain conditions are met.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN these things should always have oversight of course. im sure secret agents monitor plenty of islamic websites, and local militias and KKK et al. but to think that they routinely "spy" on websites like this one is ludicrous.

I think a lot of it depends on what you call "spying". The internet makes automated survailance really easy.

I am monitoring all of your sorry little asses and reporting it in my hourly updates to the secretary of the almighty KGB.

But really though, I won't be surprised if there are government agents here. There are some people on here who have some pretty dam good discussions and abilities. And the way some approach certain discussions can be quite questionable when you think of this topic. I doubt that people would do it for personal motivations to spend every day 365 days a year arguing against 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Though I'll be honest and you guys wont believe it - but I do not work for any Russian agencies - I dont even have any Russian friends.

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I think PKC is an agent of the NWO...

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z TA or PDD aren't exactly activist groups or grassroots organizations looking to bring about social change man . And last time I checked, neither me or PKC were John Lennon .

*logs IP and location*

...you were saying?

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The only thing I find interesting is that everyone here who works for the government or some kind of federal agency seem to have the emotional maturity of a 10 yr old, the comprehension skills of an 8 yr old, and the reasoning abilities of a 5 yr old . I guess you have to be severely brainwashed before you're willing to sell your soul to the state. The funny thing is that no matter what the facts or historical precedent indicates, they will naively continue trusting the government both as a functional institution and as legitimate credible source of information. There seem to be rare exceptions where their cognitive functions seem to be on par of an individual who is not intellectually and psychologically handicapped, but only very occasionally. Most people who work for the government seem to be just plain stupid. I guess it explains why they work for the government in the first place, and why they're so dependent on the state for job security and a relatively decent salary. So neurosis and an inability to think critically naturally follows I guess.

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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z The only thing I find interesting is that everyone here who works for the government or some kind of federal agency seem to have the emotional maturity of a 10 yr old, the comprehension skills of an 8 yr old, and the reasoning abilities of a 5 yr old . I guess you have to be severely brainwashed before you're willing to sell your soul to the state. The funny thing is that no matter what the facts or historical precedent indicates, they will naively continue trusting the government both as a functional institution and as legitimate credible source of information. There seem to be rare exceptions where their cognitive functions seem to be on par of an individual who is not intellectually and psychologically handicapped, but only very occasionally. Most people who work for the government seem to be just plain stupid. I guess it explains why they work for the government in the first place, and why they're so dependent on the state for job security and a relatively decent salary. So neurosis and an inability to think critically naturally follows I guess.

if it wasn't for the state you'd have nothing to whinge about (and you so like to whinge), so give credit where credit is due!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN if it wasn't for the state you'd have nothing to whinge about (and you so like to whinge), so give credit where credit is due!

What about the corporations ?

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z What about the corporations ?

haha true, but i dont find the criticism from you guys all that compelling here. you want to tear down the state which will put all remaining power in the hands of the propertied class. government is the only check on power we have against private property :/

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha true, but i dont find the criticism from you guys all that compelling here. you want to tear down the state which will put all remaining power in the hands of the propertied class. government is the only check on power we have against private property :/

In the absence of the current institution of state, once it's torn down, the feudal class and it's monopoly over power would be the next to go .

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z In the absence of the current institution of state, once it's torn down, the feudal class and it's monopoly over power would be the next to go .

yeah, i don't buy that for a second. with the state gone and with it its monopoly on violence, the private sphere will go to extreme lengths to protect their investments and capital.

the book 'snow crash' which is one of the first cyberpunk novels detailed how sections of the city were divided into self-ruling enclaves, called things like coca-cola or IBM or Walmart etc. that's what i see as the logical outcome of a state with no government.

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