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jp
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DJ Neilson, if you think a thread is stupid, don't click on it.


I find many threads stupid, that makes this forum interesting

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obs
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his complaint is that he spends all his gig money on new vinyl, whereas the mp3 dj doesn't have to do that because they can just download the tracks.


if i was a mobile deejay and instead of carrying around shitloads of CDs/vinyls, i decided to mp3 them all and use two notebooks, why is that bad?

Old Post Jun-03-2002 09:22  Canada
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dj kinetica
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Location: San Jose, California, USA

i would have to agree with trance_nut...spinning on vinyl is so much more fun than spinning on CDs...you get to feel the vinyl rather than using that turn nob to try to mix your song...

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McDowell
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Jersey Yo!

the Pioneer CDJ-1000 mimics vinyl pretty good(though they go for a couple thousand each). It has 2 turn tables above that act like vinyl...you move it and it makes the scatch sound. There is no automatic beat match so you you slow/speed up the records just like vinyl.

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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

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alot of people out there are of the opinion that djs should use vinyl basically because it pleases the crowd to see records as opposed to cds.


Half the events & shows I've been to, the poor bastard/bastardette was either in the dark or hidden in fake fog.

There is a difference in sound - that vinyl crunch. Any of you downloaded "Lee James - Tactics" in the New Tracks section of this site? Now that's vinyl - warpy, grungy vinyl.

Away from DJing for a sec, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that CDs just don't encourage repeated listenings the way other media do. I'd play my tapes till they sounded like they survived a flood. Hell, even MP3s are better for listening to over and over. I'll play a CD once and then put it away for a few days.

Maybe it's because I pay so much for sucky CDs and find better stuff on anything else....

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Dj Zinni
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Evanston, IL, USA

OK good points on both sides, But to the statement that mp3 Djs don't have to pay anything, If you are in the USA and a Mp3 dj I hopw to god you dont get caught, Its perfectly legal to play burns if you have the vinyl or cd original, otherwise your talking about getting your decks checked, a 2000 dollar fine and possibly more, It happened to my uncle. And no he is not a club Dj, he is a moble wedding dj and they got him at a small wedding hall

I personally have a tech 1200 mk2 and 2 american Dj cd decks, this lets me buy the vinyl then burn it and play it on both mediums. Also this gives me the ability to have 2 or more of every track , I think thats kind of cool.


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Dj_Zen
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Ibiza
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I found this on howstuffworks.com

Question

I hear people saying that vinyl records have a better sound quality than CDs or even DVDs. How can this be?

Answer



The answer lies in the difference between analog and digital recordings. A vinyl record is an analog recording, and CDs and DVDs are digital recordings. Take a look at the graph below. Original sound is analog by definition. A digital recording takes snapshots of the analog signal at a certain rate (for CDs it is 44,100 times per second) and measures each snapshot with a certain accuracy (for CDs it is 16-bit, which means the value must be one of 65,536 possible values).

=>GRAPH---> http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/question487.gif

Comparison of a raw analog audio signal to the CD audio and DVD audio output


This means that, by definition, a digital recording is not capturing the complete sound wave. It is approximating it with a series of steps. Some sounds that have very quick transitions, such as a drum beat or a trumpet's tone, will be distorted because they change too quickly for the sample rate.

In your home stereo the CD or DVD player takes this digital recording and converts it to an analog signal, which is fed to your amplifier. The amplifier then raises the voltage of the signal to a level powerful enough to drive your speaker.

A vinyl record has a groove carved into it that mirrors the original sound's waveform. This means that no information is lost. The output of a record player is analog. It can be fed directly to your amplifier with no conversion.

This means that the waveforms from a vinyl recording can be much more accurate, and that can be heard in the richness of the sound. But there is a downside, any specks of dust or damage to the disc can be heard as noise or static. During quiet spots in songs this noise may be heard over the music. Digital recordings don't degrade over time, and if the digital recording contains silence, then there will be no noise.

From the graph above you can see that CD quality audio does not do a very good job of replicating the original signal. The main ways to improve the quality of a digital recording are to increase the sampling rate and to increase the accuracy of the sampling.

The recording industry has a new standard for DVD audio discs that will greatly improve the sound quality. The table below lists the sampling rate and the accuracy for CD recordings, and the maximum sampling rate and accuracy for DVD recordings. DVDs can hold 74 minutes of music at their highest quality level. CDs can also hold 74 minutes of music. By lowering either the sampling rate or the accuracy, DVDs can hold more music. For instance a DVD can hold almost 7 hours of CD quality audio.

CD Audio DVD Audio
Sampling Rate 44.1 kHz 192 kHz
Samples per second 44,100 192,000
Sampling Accuracy 16-bit 24-bit
Number of Possible Output Levels 65,536 16,777,216



Original Page -> http://www.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm

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burns
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I am considering on getting a cd deck so i can whip in the odd rare tune

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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

that how stuff works crap gawd

just go on and take a vinyl signal and compare it with a cd signal thru a spectrum analyser. that website is plainly bullshittin'.


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Dj_Zen
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lol...
i dont know if i believe that site 100% either..
but i do belive that in vinyl hi and low frequencies will soud better.
so if u want vocals use cd's eheheeheh .
But a typical Pvd beat will sound much better on the good ol'vinyl.

Old Post Jun-04-2002 14:50  United Nations
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