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Originally posted by Watts If the second one isn't good then the artist accomplished his goal. Power noise only takes a little bit of the anti out of anti-music.

not really. it almost always has a rhythm (hence its other name "rhythmic noise"), which already qualifies it as music. it is also often very melodic (have you ever heard gridlock's "formless" or s:cage's "madness turns to glass"?). so it is, in fact, a form of music, that just happens to be quiet noisy. there are other genres that can indeed be considered anti-musical. power noise is not one of them.

edit: also, you may be confusing power noise with power electronics

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Last edited by Noisician on Oct-08-2008 at 22:07

sheer class at 1.06 from surgeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSrLgoWq8E

lol

a very mills christmas

edited for accuracy

Last edited by nefardec on Oct-09-2008 at 00:45

eh

Can't say i like this stuff..

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Imminent Starvation slaughters everything. Nord CD is really, really good.

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Originally posted by Watts

Yes. Converter. I've got most of his stuff, top notch for what he does.

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Originally posted by Noisician edit: also, you may be confusing power noise with power electronics

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those names interchangeable?

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Originally posted by Gauss Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those names interchangeable?

absolutely not. they have very little in common. the names are awfully similar, which creates lots of confusion. (incidentally, raoul roucka should be castrated for coining up the term "power noise" in the first place.)

here are some examples (the difference should be obvious):

p.e. 1
p.e. 2
p.e. 3
p.e. 4

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Originally posted by Noisician absolutely not. they have very little in common. the names are awfully similar, which creates lots of confusion.

Care to elaborate?

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Originally posted by Noisician (incidentally, raoul roucka should be castrated for coining up the term "power noise" in the first place.)

Why?

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Originally posted by Noisician here are some examples (the difference should be obvious): p.e. 1 p.e. 2 p.e. 3 p.e. 4

So, if I got it right, power noise (aka rhythmic noise) is noise with more rhythm, while power electronics is simply very harsh noise, something like Navicon Torture Technologies?

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Originally posted by Gauss Care to elaborate?

the names of the two genres are confusingly similar. as a result, there are MANY people like you who think the terms are interchangeable.

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Originally posted by Gauss Why?

he started to refer to rhythmic noise as "power noise", which led to this confusion. to his credit though, he did later admit it was a mistake to call it that.

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Originally posted by Gauss So, if I got it right, power noise (aka rhythmic noise) is noise with more rhythm, while power electronics is simply very harsh noise, something like Navicon Torture Technologies?

power electronics does not have to be all harsh noise. the american and finnish schools are very noisy, yes. but most of the stuff coming out of, say, germany is very tame in comparison. the presence of vocals is what really matters too.

and yes, ntt can be considered p.e. as well. he himself calls his opuses "power romance". one could say he's the emo guy of the p.e. scene - and would be right

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I know the difference between the two (which is why I said it takes some of the anti out of anti-music); however, now that you have defined them both, you only have me at my word for knowing before hand.