With Serato announcing a new partnership with Ableton, I'm no longer sure which one I want. Probably Serato now as Ableton is my sequencer of choice.

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(Edit - I'm an idiot - just checked the NI forums and it seems it's a free upgrade...) I've left in my idiot post below:


The question is (unless I've missed the answer!) are they going to make me upgrade to Traktor Pro AND Scratch Pro if I want to retain four deck action?

I'd happily upgrade for better effects and more stability, but I'm not sure if I'd be happy going through two upgrades for it... we'll see.

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Last edited by DJRecess on Oct-17-2008 at 09:55

That doesn't make any sense, but ok.

Folks, this update just took NI to the next level. Serato is a great product and lots of people will still choose to use it because of it's reputation, but this product SH*TS ALL OVER IT in terms of feature set.

And yes, Traktor Scratch is very very stable. I've been using it for nearly a year now, no major issues, hickups, etc. And I've played 5 hour live club gigs with it.

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Originally posted by Fledz With Serato announcing a new partnership with Ableton, I'm no longer sure which one I want. Probably Serato now as Ableton is my sequencer of choice.

It makes perfect sense.

I've been hearing that Traktor is better so I was going to hook it up to my gear and laptop and use it.

However, when I produce I use Ableton and the DJing side of Ableton is limitless as well. Remixes on the fly and all that. Now that they have a partnership with Ableton, it makes sense that they could release a fantastic product that goes together really well with Ableton.

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Perhaps, but if they are JUST announcing a partnership, it could be quite a long time before a product is released.

I'm sticking with my Traktor Scratch. It works/looks/feels like DJ'ing.

I own Ableton as well, but can't stand DJ'ing with it.

Different strokes... we should all just be glad we have so many choices

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Originally posted by Fledz It makes perfect sense. I've been hearing that Traktor is better so I was going to hook it up to my gear and laptop and use it. However, when I produce I use Ableton and the DJing side of Ableton is limitless as well. Remixes on the fly and all that. Now that they have a partnership with Ableton, it makes sense that they could release a fantastic product that goes together really well with Ableton.

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Originally posted by skip basically i'd need perfect looping and beatmatching and the ability to set a point in a track to skip, ie. when the track reaches say 5:03, it jumps straight to 5:39 skipping the annoyingly bad vocal gayness for example and being on time and on beat sounding great. if traktor pro can offer such features, i'm in!

It will let you set Cue points but I don't think it will allow for an automatic transition to the next one that you've set, i.e. you'll still need to time it all yourself. I could be wrong however, and if I am then I'll also be really happy, because such a feature would be incredible.

My only complaint with regards to Traktor is that it does not display the waveforms in one box, i.e. one on top of the other. Does anybody know if I'm wrong about this or if there is maybe a mod that will allow me to view the waveforms side by side?

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Originally posted by Adam420 My only complaint with regards to Traktor is that it does not display the waveforms in one box, i.e. one on top of the other. Does anybody know if I'm wrong about this or if there is maybe a mod that will allow me to view the waveforms side by side?

What do you need that for?

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Originally posted by Zild What do you need that for?

To be able to time the mixing perfectly, and I mean perfectly. It's weird because in Virtual DJ you could do that, however I don't believe that program is reliable enough to be used professionally.

so what about the abelton/serato partnership

to this day i still have yet to see a dj that uses abelton to it's full potential in a live setting, not to say there aren't people out there rocking it out, i've just yet to see it myself

and as also pointed out, it's going to be a while before we see something out that works with both, it's going to take some time to develop the software and work out the bugs

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Originally posted by Adam420 To be able to time the mixing perfectly, and I mean perfectly. It's weird because in Virtual DJ you could do that, however I don't believe that program is reliable enough to be used professionally.

what's wrong with your ears?

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Originally posted by Adam420 To be able to time the mixing perfectly, and I mean perfectly. It's weird because in Virtual DJ you could do that, however I don't believe that program is reliable enough to be used professionally.

You can do that in Traktor too. There is a phase thing above the tracks that shows if you are beatmatched or not and if not which way the track is drifting. Personally it isn't as good or as fast as my ears.

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