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neverforget
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quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Yes, go to a shop and buy a PC.


Old Post Oct-12-2008 12:53  United States
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neverforget
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Ok, so... I want a Pc ideal for music in around the $500 region - around £300 (I'm currently in the UK so i'll probably have to order from it). Any links?

Thanks

EDIT: It must support Firewire!

Old Post Oct-12-2008 14:54  United States
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Beyer
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Go to gearslutz.com, and search for pc configurations there. That forum has enormous amounts of info on such things.

The best thing you could do, is to buy the components separate, and put the machine together yourself. Just make sure you buy components that are tried and tested to work together.

Old Post Oct-12-2008 15:50  Norway
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neverforget
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quote:
Originally posted by Beyer
The best thing you could do, is to buy the components separate, and put the machine together yourself. Just make sure you buy components that are tried and tested to work together.


Thats the problem, I'm hopeless Wouldn't know where to start really... But I'll check that site out, thanks!

Old Post Oct-12-2008 16:05  United States
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Personally, I think if you know absolute jack shite about the different parts of a PC and how to set it up, I would just buy a desktop PC from a shop.

Okay, so each specific part may not be the absolute best for audio production but without getting anal about it, a fast PC is a fast PC and will get you on your way.

If you try and do it yourself, you could face nothing but headaches with sourcing parts that are all compatible with each other, setting it all up, installing everything, overcoming potential problems where something isnt configured properly etc.

Some people enjoy getting their hands dirty with all the technical stuff, and if problems occur, relish the challenge of investigating, diagnosing and fixing the problem themselves.

Others dont have a clue, and dont wanna spend hours trying to fix something. These people, such as yourself, should buy the complete PC ready to roll.

All you would need to buy in addition is a better soundcard as the ones that comes with the PC will likely be crap.


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http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/p..._530s_d105s02~~

I was looking at this... What do you guys think? As far as I know it doesn't support Firewire which is what I really need. Can anyone give me any good suggestions? It would be much appreciated!! Thanks

Old Post Oct-13-2008 18:19  United States
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Eric J
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Honestly, I'd get something with a full sized case. Those smaller computers usually don't have full size PCIe slots, and you may want that ability in the future should to decide to get a PCI based audio interface or any PCI DSP cards, such as UAD.

In addition, you probably want to go ahead and get a PCI firewire card so you can be assured that you have a TI firewire chipset. Lots of audio firewire devices have problems with the VIA firewire chipsets.

Old Post Oct-13-2008 18:27  United States
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quote:
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Honestly, I'd get something with a full sized case. Those smaller computers usually don't have full size PCIe slots, and you may want that ability in the future should to decide to get a PCI based audio interface or any PCI DSP cards, such as UAD.

In addition, you probably want to go ahead and get a PCI firewire card so you can be assured that you have a TI firewire chipset. Lots of audio firewire devices have problems with the VIA firewire chipsets.


I'll most likely be sticking with Firewire dude. I thought that if you had a Firewire Audio Interface, then you didn't need a soundcare? Or so i read on Tweakheadz Is there anyway of plugging a firewire Audio interface into a PCI slot? Or do you need some sort of converter or what? Thanks for replying though!

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Zak McKracken
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most new good motherboards have firewire-port on it which you can use. but carefull, i blew up my audiofire 2 soundcard by accidelntly disconnecting it while the computer was on.
there are PCI-wirewire cards sure, just google it. One of the users here reccomended one a while ago but i dont remember who and i dont bother searching, he might read this thread and put it up again.
then again i reccoment Echo Audiofire soundcards. google it. ok ill help you. www.echoaudio.com
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/F...Fire4/index.php

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Eric J
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quote:
Originally posted by neverforget
I'll most likely be sticking with Firewire dude. I thought that if you had a Firewire Audio Interface, then you didn't need a soundcare? Or so i read on Tweakheadz Is there anyway of plugging a firewire Audio interface into a PCI slot? Or do you need some sort of converter or what? Thanks for replying though!


I think you are getting confused here. An audio interface IS a soundcard. Its the same thing, its just that anything thats for studio use is typically referred to as an "audio interface".

WHat I am suggesting here is that instead of using a firewire port thats built onto the motherboard, to get a separate firewire PCI card. This is a simple PCI card with Firewire ports. Then you plug your audio interface into the firewire ports on the card.

quote:
Originally posted by palm
most new good motherboards have firewire-port on it which you can use.


While this is true, it is traditionally difficult to find out what type of firewire chipset that the motherboard is using. In addition, cheaper computers are more likely to have the cheaper VIA firewire chipset, which is known to cause problems with lots of firewire devices. This is why I suggest investing a measly $30 into a firewire PCI card that you KNOW has a TI chipset, rather that risking buing a computer with a built in firewire port that has the VIA chipset.

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pwnage1
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I knew jack shit about putting together a computer until this weekend when i added a harddrive,sound card, and replaced the processor/motherboard, and ram.

It took me a while and involved a lot of trial and error and about 50 minutes of research and printing guides. But, i saved around $350 USD.

It is worth building it yourself and with a little common sense and google you should pretty easily be able to build your own.


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It is worth building it yourself and with a little common sense and google you should pretty easily be able to build your own.


Theres no such thing as common sense for me when it comes to computers I'll try google though thanks!

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