What the city needs to do is stop worrying about the club district and start worrying about gun control and drug trafficking. THAT is the real problem not the clubs. Peter Gatien makes a very good point by saying how underground raves were a thing of the past and now today it is much more organized. Also I remember another member of parliament trying to make a red light district (imo a good idea) but howabout a club district where no residential areas can be developed and only commercial and entertainment is allowed.

Sounds like he probably didn't get into a particular club at some point in time.

I think this was written from a personal opinion. He probably doesn't know too much or anything at all about this industry. A lot of his points seem like he went out once and this is what he experienced.

forgive me if im wrong.. but wasn't the fact that there was such nightlife activity in the club district and it became such as hot spot after being nothing but empty warehouses the reason people began to build condos and move into the area?

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That's what this city gets for electing people like him. He ran on this platform in the last election and the left wing toronto residents relected him.

Trinity once again has Vaughn and Olivia Chow....GOOD JOB


They both also want to shut down the Island Airport.

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Originally posted by Flec hes not demonizing clubs, hes demonizing clubland.

How can you say that when he makes comments like this (and makes them over and over again)???

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"The reality is, the clubs cause more problems than they're worth," says Councillor Adam Vaughan, whose ward, Trinity-Spadina, includes the Entertainment District. "I'm bringing in development to get rid of clubs. Boo-hoo."

Adam Vaughan is a fucking douchebag.

In his shoes, I'd be advocating for:

- improved transit to service the area.
- an extension of last call to 3am or 4am.
- more businesses into the immediate area that would benefit and improve a vibrant bar/club scene (any food place that stays open to 3am makes a killing, for e.g.)
- the relaxation of noise bylaws for the district. Residents moving in would still have rights...but not the complete 'quiet' that can be expected in suburbia.

but he has *consistently* demonstrated ZERO desire to serve the interests of clubs or patrons and therefore, IMHO, has no business representing that area.

Adam vaughn says he's bringing development in to push the clubs out

and the president of the BIA says pushing clubs out is not their goal.


huh?



p.s. someone should push Adam Vaughn in front of a street car.

Looks like we are going back to the good old warehouses for good parties.

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some friends and i broke into his vaughan's house when his family lived on coolmine street years ago and we stole a few hot wheels while him and his brother were playing some video games in another room






i felt bad about it until now





ack him

You know, Clubland is a clusterfuck - but the City only has it's self to blame for putting in stupid zoneing bylaws which turned that area into 'club land' and making it difficult for clubs to open outside of that area.

From what I gather, it's pretty much impossible to open up a "new" club anywhere in the city unless your taking over an existing space due to difficulties with licensing.

Is it any wonder that from 3am to 5am is a warzone in that area when you've forced that many clubs into that area (and by design awhile ago), have a stupid last-call system which forces many bars to close shop by 3am - causing thousands of drunks to spill into the streets. Perhaps if the clubs were more distributed across the city, not gathered so densly into one area - once last call came, it wouldn't have so many people in 1 area?

I'm fine with seeing club-land become an area of the past, as long as it's made possible for other clubs to open in new areas of the city. Really, whats the big deal with letting 270 Spadina have a license?

Also - what does he want people to do for entertainment? True, there is "life beyond clubbing" but for many people - hitting the clubs a few times a month is a big/important part of their social life and is one of the factors that adds to their enjoyment of the city - I dont want to be sitting around playing scrabble every weekend because I dont have the option of doing much else. (Mind you, I did play scrabble last night and rather enjoyed it)

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Originally posted by MarkT but he has *consistently* demonstrated ZERO desire to serve the interests of clubs or patrons and therefore, IMHO, has no business representing that area.

However, isn't he representing the people who live in that area? and most of the people that are affected by his plans don't actually live there - just come to it on the weekends.

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Originally posted by kaniz Really, whats the big deal with letting 270 Spadina have a license?

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Just burn all of clubland to the ground and get the condos built....I am sick of all that crap noise anyhow and I am looking for a new condo so this would be perfect.

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