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Originally posted by adi_hanson breakdown

no need for that, just build up in 4 minutes, let it go for two min on peak. then end it slowly the next two, then u have a 8 minute killer.

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Originally posted by palm no need for that, just build up in 4 minutes, let it go for two min on peak. then end it slowly the next two, then u have a 8 minute killer.

or better (like older techno used to be, see prodigy)
intro, theme1, theme2, theme1, theme2, theme3, theme2 (twisted), theme3, theme1 (short), outro

yeah they had intreasting formats witch is not the problem im looking to solve. it all comes down to tecnicality how do you find things and make them work/ without turning noise into something intreasting?

its all in the transitions imo

and another thing, if something doesnt sound "full" enough, dont start adding things, tweak what u got instead til it sounds full enough for you. if not, delete it, its all about keeping it at a minimum imo

alot of tracks ive heard lately could just as well be three tracks.

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Originally posted by palm its all in the transitions imo and another thing, if something doesnt sound "full" enough, dont start adding things, tweak what u got instead til it sounds full enough for you. if not, delete it, its all about keeping it at a minimum imo

? explane

I think a lot of people get build ups confused with actually increasing sound levels etc, you wanna avoid that.

When you think build up think CHANGE.
Close a filter on one sound slowly, open filter on another sound slowly.
Automate a flanger over some sounds to sweep in the beat before it drops.
Open or close a reverb (to make it sound like its coming out of water and into air)
Automate pitch, lfo, and filter on a single pad note so pitch rises, lfo speeds up, and filter opens.

I mean build ups have SO MANY different ways of executing. I find lazy people just drop a snare roll but used right hey it works.
For my build ups though I always notice thats when automations really do a lot of their work.

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Originally posted by palm no need for that, just build up in 4 minutes, let it go for two min on peak. then end it slowly the next two, then u have a 8 minute killer.

being it a personal preference , i love a good goosebumpy breakdown.

mega breakdowns like olmec heads - spritualized and G&D's version of no one on earth , really define a tune IMO

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Last edited by adi_hanson on Oct-26-2008 at 19:49

mute the kick is also sometimes nice.