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Ry Thomas
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best thing to do with fl is drag audio vacal clip into playlist and take snap off, then drag til timing is perfect


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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
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quote:
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If i recall correctly, there was a video by BT somewhere on the internet about how he time stretched some from about 96 bpm to 136 bpm without any mess ups, i believe he was remixing Sarah McLaughlin


It depends on the original recording too, my voice doesn't respond well to that sort of abuse, but some people have voices which do. The only way I can do time stretching is if I use melodyne, otherwise its just a mess...


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Re: Vocal time stretching

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Originally posted by Microlab
I've tried to do a remix but i cant sync the vocal with the track itself. Although i've automatically detected the tempo of the vocal, i cant play them simultaneoulsy. Is it a software (i use FL studio)that makes it a problem for me, i mean with Ableton it is a lot easier, or any general rules that should be taken in mind when syncronyzing? Thanks a lot!

Wait, you cannot automatically detect the tempo of the vocal unless it contains a drum beat. Or atleast it won't be very accurate. Take the original track and detect the bpm of it and use that information to apply timestretching to the vocal.

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Of course we're all asuming that the original track has a constant BPM, ie, is a dance track... Rock, Jazz etc are a lot more work...


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quote:
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It depends on the original recording too, my voice doesn't respond well to that sort of abuse, but some people have voices which do. The only way I can do time stretching is if I use melodyne, otherwise its just a mess...


Fair enough, but i am sure there are some algorithms out there that can be pretty accurate without major loss of quality.


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Fair enough, but i am sure there are some algorithms out there that can be pretty accurate without major loss of quality.

Yeah melodyne. Maybe cubase, not sure about that though... Some people can get away with using the ableton one though somehow, just lucky I guess...


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quote:
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best thing to do with fl is drag audio vacal clip into playlist and take snap off, then drag til timing is perfect


Yes, inserting it as an audio clip can also give you the possibility to cut ('chop') it down, so you can slide every little bit to match it perfectly.


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quote:
Originally posted by Icone
Yes, inserting it as an audio clip can also give you the possibility to cut ('chop') it down, so you can slide every little bit to match it perfectly.


In Cubase this is called hitpoints, you can let Cubase auto-detect them en chop it automaticely, this is great for using loops, not so much for vocals. When creating hitpoints, the sample will also be adjusted to the BPM of the track (ofcourse you have give the original BPM first). It's not adviceable doing this on vocals (that is, let Cubase chop them up automaticely), because Cubase can cut them on the wrong moments.

Better is using the warp function, I found this one out a couple of weeks ago working on a remix of Crosses. Warp is great! Just drag the piece of the sample where it is out of sync to the right position, and that's it.
Warp is also very usefull when you have guitarparts in your track, it's pretty difficult to play a complicated guitarpart exactly on-beat, so for the notes that aren't (after the recording), you can use warp to set them on time.


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quote:
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i believe he was remixing Sarah McLaughlin




Sarah McLachlan .

Or did I miss some form of joke!


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quote:
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If i recall correctly, there was a video by BT somewhere on the internet about how he time stretched some from about 96 bpm to 136 bpm without any mess ups, i believe he was remixing Sarah McLaughlin

From the lost footage videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ8ZzKck1Os


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