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Originally posted by Ian enough to know that I preferred the chris liebing of 2002-5 to the one of today, that I enjoy Oliver Lieb's sets & productions under solieb, that preach may have been cheesy but his work in 2004 was way better than what he does now, know a few good tunes/sets. Enjoyed early Joris Voorn work, Technasia, Kowalski, Hertz, Grindvik, Hardcell, Beyer etc from older days, mostly a fan of well mixed loop-techno but can appreciate funky & hard and some minimal but not very much. Used to enjoy Cave's sets too.

just saying.
techno is a pretty broad term

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who is philip sherburne?

and why does any1 care what he thinks?

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Originally posted by sot who is philip sherburne? and why does any1 care what he thinks?

He are serious techno column writer. He write serious techno column for serious techno fan.

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obama will fix the music industry and pay my mortgage off

Jesus christ I want those 10 minutes of my life back.

I've had a fucking fantastic time with music in 2008. Its just getting better and better.

4/4 Dance music often sounds the same? GET THE FUCK OUT!

I love these people who act like every tune has to be the most forward thinking, innovative, weirdly structured, musical masterpiece they ever heard. It shows they don't go out much if at all.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by nefardec didn't really like the article though sounds like he's having an identity crisis just a classic example of pscyhological projection. the techno sky is falling because phillip sherburne can't figure out what's intellectual or cool to like in 2008. just listen to what moves you and keep exploring

But if Pitchfork can't tell us what's cool, how will we know what to listen to?

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Originally posted by flavdave But if Pitchfork can't tell us what's cool, how will we know what to listen to?

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My interest in modern techno lessened when compared to last year, but I blame myself for that rather than quality of the music itself. I definitely started to appreciate the old, raw, analogue sounds more, so when I had to decide which records (apart from dubstep) to buy, I grabbed more faster, detroit-ish cuts.

That being said, I still enjoyed (for listening purposes mostly) stuff like the latest Troxler on Crosstown Rebels, Efdemin, and Johnny D's Orbitalife was big for me earlier this year as well.

I think Sherburne has a point when he's talking about all that nu-deep stuff; there were lots of preachapellas used in a context that was simply too white for it, and thus it sounded perhaps a bit fake; vocals saying "Detroit" or "deep" as if only the iteration of those words could give tune more soul. I know it's a part of all the "returning to the roots" that was possibly the leitmotiv of techno this year, but it rarely succeeded.

Personally, where I see the biggest potential, is in merging sounds of dubstep and techno - see Martyn, 2562, Appleblim (watch out for the brilliant remix he made with Ramadanman of a new tune featuring Paul St. Hillaire, forthcoming on Aus/Simple) or even Mathew Jonson. I can see this sound spreading more in the following months/next year.

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Last edited by GoSpeedGo! on Nov-14-2008 at 13:55

Personally I don't tend to give a fuck about what's currently in vogue. Most of my favourite records from the past three or four years have been divorced from what's "going on". I have so much stuff to listen to from the past that keeping up with what's trendy seems a waste of time and energy, especially if I'm not connecting with it.

The way Sherburne talks, by contrast, is as though house and techno- and their trendy strains at that- were the only things happening in electronic music in 2008. How typical of Pitchfork.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Personally I don't tend to give a fuck about what's currently in vogue. Most of my favourite records from the past three or four years have been divorced from what's "going on". I have so much stuff to listen to from the past that keeping up with what's trendy seems a waste of time and energy, especially if I'm not connecting with it. The way Sherburne talks, by contrast, is as though house and techno- and their trendy strains at that- were the only things happening in electronic music in 2008. How typical of Pitchfork.

I agree with this. It's interesting to me how electronic music is so obsessed with the future - the next big thing, etc. When a track has been released for a few months, it fades away quickly and most dj's won't touch it. I understand that dj's are constantly looking for tracks that nobody else has their hands on, but what's wrong with enjoying music that is more than a few months old?

To me, there's little more exciting in a dj set than to hear an old favorite dropped into the middle - not a rework, but just a solid production that I've always enjoyed brought back into the present.

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