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Gluegun
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

The Etymotic headphones are some of the best dynamic headphones on the planet. The ER4S constitutes one of the better studio monitors on the planet...

However, while these headphones are perhaps some of the best studio monitors out there, you get a...few problems with DJing...

1.) While Etymotic headphones provide incredible 'you hear it but don't feel it and ohmyfuckinggoditssogoodihaveneverheardbasslikethisooooohhhhhhmmmmmmm bass, that is dependant on the *fit* of the headphone. The better (notice I did not say deeper, but I said 'better') seal you have, the better the bass. What happens if you don't have a good seal for whatever reason halfway through your mix? There goes your bass!

2.) You can fix this problem by getting custom earmolds from your local audiologist for maybe $100. Those let you get a perfect seal every time

3.) No matter what, even with earmolds, it will take a few seconds of fiddling with them PER EAR to get the Etymotic headphones in. Really, is 10 seconds to put both on and get them sealed right usable in a DJ situation?

4.) What happens if these get yanked out of your ear? Since they make a vacuum seal, can you say 'owie'? This is a documented thing--etymotic headphones are headphones that you *sit down with*!! Like on a bus or train or plane or when you want to ignore the rest of the world and go into your own little world of you.. and music... and bliss.. and NOTHING else.

5.) What about microphonics? Tap the cord and you get a loud BUMP or THUMP! Imagine that messing up your beatmatching!

That being said, Etymotic headphones are still some of the best in the planet.

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...2&subTopicID=19

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020100000

However, as DJ's, you might like the drivability and added bass of the ER4P... it would be perfect for something with low power, like a portable player.. and, as many DJ mixers are, erm, not quite alllll that quality, this would work! Also, you can buy an adaptor to make the ER4P's act EXACTLY like the ER4S, so that helps too!

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020100005

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quddha
the procrastinat0r



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

lol, gluegun you're such an audio nerd.

i mean that in a good way. lol... reminds me of the comic store dude from the simpsons, except instead of a comic-know-it-all, you're an audio-know-it-all..


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nrjizer
vive le deep



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA

quote:
Originally posted by mindshooter
I hear the ringing everytime i try to sleep and its all quiet... even though i havent been on a party. So you could say that im already to late I havent been to many parties. And when i have..ive used earplugs. But its my freestyle who got me. I listened to loud. And i always used headphones by the computer. I raised the volume more and more, everyday. You know what i mean. You get used to the sound. Now ive read that when your ears get used to a certain volume. That means that they already took damage. So if you raise the volume. You will just get worse. Which i did
Now i cant use headphones more. And when i do i use them on a VERY low volume. I get pain in my ears everytime i go to the cinema. Its really painfull. Dont make my misstake! Its not worth it. I had to lay down all DJ dreams ive ever had. I had even collected money to buy equipment but i just had to forget that now. Tinnitus can never get better, only worse. And one day you wake up with a ringing over 70 DB in your ear (louder than a vaccum cleaner) which you will have the rest of your life.

Peace


I get some ringing in my ears when its _dead_ quiet. Even something like the AC blowing thru the floor vent will make it go away tho. Its been like this for quite a long time.

Im really starting to worry about my hearing. Ive always had really good hearing and could always pick out faint sounds that others couldnt, but I listen to music a lot on my headphones, not at totally ear blasting levels, but moderately loud. I read somewhere that your ears are safe for up to 8 hours of continuous exposure at 80db. My pc speakers have a maximum output of 106db, and Ive never turned them higher than half way up (theyre loud ). I dont really party that much either. But after listening for a while on my phones, I can "feel" it in my ears.

I really hope im not doing any serious damage. Im always consious about keeping the volumes to a certain level, but sometimes that doesnt even seem good enough


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Gluegun
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

Heya nrjizer,

Don't worry about any particular source more than any other... for the factor that affects your hearing is universal:

Loudness, especially over time.

As a general rule, you should try and listen so it is just barely not too quiet, and you should take hearing protection anywhere very loud..

Yea, since you have even a slight ringing at night, that pretty much is tinnitus, so you have to be EXTRA CAREFUL, as it can only get worse!

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nrjizer
vive le deep



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA

quote:
Originally posted by Gluegun

As a general rule, you should try and listen so it is just barely not too quiet, and you should take hearing protection anywhere very loud..



Ive never really blasted it while at home, always just kept it right at an "ear filling" level, you could say. Its not like going down the highway in a car or riding in the boat is any worse than music.

I certainly dont blast it like a lot of people I know do in their cars and at home.

I got 3 ear infections from swimming last summer, and have sinus/allergy issues, which could both be the cause.. oh well, Ill just try to be careful


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Scorchio
Sorry! We Are Circoloco



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lexicon Avenue

Special ear plugs that lower the volium...

Old Post Jun-08-2002 10:27  Israel
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