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Originally posted by palm its free enough, to the day u plan to release anything.

it's free for 30 days. if you use it longer it's not legal.

if it doesn't stop to work after the trial period it doesn't make it more legal. though the non-commercial price is not that steep.

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Originally posted by thecYrus it's free for 30 days. if you use it longer it's not legal. if it doesn't stop to work after the trial period it doesn't make it more legal. though the non-commercial price is not that steep.

is this new as of lately? ive had version 2.0 for a good while now for free? maybe its thirty days in working time... i only use it to convert wav to mp3 with lame.

thank you for all your reply's and debates its been good to read.

But now i feel I will have to try both demo version. Reaper sounds good but i'm looking for something that in years to come I will feel comfortable with when I upgrade.

Palm I would love to go Mac, my friend swears by it who is a classical composer. But funds do not stretch to that kind of budget.(new Mac and Daw).


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Originally posted by echosystm Reaper - best GUI, great workflow, terrible VST compatibility

What do u you mean? Terrible VST compatibility?? VSTs work fine for me with NO bugs!

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Originally posted by Pagan-za Fighting online is like winning the special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

Get reason so you can come back here and make more threads.

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Try demos of them all of them, check out there support forums to find problems in them. Get which ever one you like the most.

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Free version with only 2 limits, no wav export, no asio. But if you've got a decent pc you can run DirectX way below 20ms anyway .

Version 2 is coming soon, with full Plugin Delay Compensation. Then it's really starting to get good . The beta's are out now for registered (paid) users and it looks very promising.

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Originally posted by kitphillips You won't find anything better than ableton. If you can't make good music in it you won't make good music in anything.

lol pretty bold statement I´d say. It just didn´t fit my way of doing things, but I should take another look at it. I really did want to like it, since it seems like you can hammer down ideas in an instant.

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Originally posted by kitphillips You won't find anything better than ableton. If you can't make good music in it you won't make good music in anything.

lol not true. ableton is soo heavy shit crashing and shit all the time destroying all the creativity flow (for me that is). ive tryed about everything soon and the only thing i can be creative in so far is reason.

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Originally posted by palm is this new as of lately? ive had version 2.0 for a good while now for free? maybe its thirty days in working time... i only use it to convert wav to mp3 with lame.

I could have sworn it was free at one point - even recently - but I guess not.

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The normal price for REAPER is $225.00 USD, however for users who wish to use REAPER only for non-commercial use we offer reduced price licensing for $50.00 USD. Upgrades from non-commercial licenses to full (commercial) licenses are available. For more information on the terms of licensing, see the Licensing Terms below. Full license purchase A full REAPER license (which allows use of REAPER for commercial purposes as defined below) is available for $225.00 USD.

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Originally posted by Beyer lol pretty bold statement I´d say. It just didn´t fit my way of doing things, but I should take another look at it. I really did want to like it, since it seems like you can hammer down ideas in an instant.

There are other DAWs as good as ableton, but nothing thats so much improved that it'll revolutionalise your production ability. I wasn't saying that ableton is the best and everything else is inferior neccesarily, I don't have the experience to say that. only that ableton has no crippling flaws which bring it down terribly. IMO ableton has the easiest gui of any DAW, the other's are extremely cluttered by comparison and aren't as logically laid out.

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