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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN in fact, the worst thing about being occupied now in afghanistan is terrorist attacks by the taliban, collateral damage fighting the taliban, and friendly fire casualties against targets mistakenly identified as the taliban. there's a common thread here somewhere....

Wait a second....so you're suggesting that the Taliban may actually be the problem? That's crazy! We're the occupiers of their country; we must be the problem.

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Originally posted by Q5echo you use the word subjigate as if you understood what countries like Iraq and Afghanistan endured for the last 30 years. news kid, you don't. you have no concept other than what you've heard what Ron Paul said on a Youtube video. srsly, thats it. no, radical Islam and posuer Islamist dictators had subjugation covered...HAD it covered.

Oh really? Dictators huh? Like...the Saudi royal family? How about President Mubarak? Colonel Za’im? Shah Pahlavi? Oh oh...Saddam Hussein!! ...Dictators we support(ed).

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this new year will begin a new era in what is possible for Afghanistan and Iraq. all we ask is you not do any heavy lifting as we've already got that covered, subjugated and all.

A new era huh? Does this era include the millions dead, wounded, and displaced by your despicable freedom crusade? I wonder about this great new era. You know, because over 100 Iraqis die every week from violence alone. Afghanistan is on fire. A fucking narco state under our occupation. Gotta love that Afghani heroine on the streets of Europe. O0o00, I can feel it in my veins already! What an era!! Can't wait!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN irrelevant. and we didn't install the government. it was a free election (of sorts).

We did install a government. That government held "elections" and guess what happened? Kurds voted for Kurds. Shiites voted for Shiites. Sunnis voted for Sunnis. That's a great democracy there! That's as if blacks in America only voted for blacks, whites for whites, asians for asians, latinos for latinos. Gee, wonder what kind of government that would be...

And their constitution says, and I quote, "1st — Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:
(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam."

Great, an official religion. Oh, and no law can be passed that contradicts this religion. Seems to me the makings of an Islamic state. BRAVO BUSH/BLAIR BRAVO!!! Freedommmmmmmm!!!!!!

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Even though afghanistan is an occupied country, its citizens have more rights than when it was independently ruled by the Taliban.

Explain to me how that is an excuse to occupy their country? So in that case, we have a right to invade, Burma, North Korea, Sudan, China, and others, because they would have more rights under our subjigation than they would under their own rulers? Interesting logic...

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Being occupied isn't always a bad thing. West Germany and Japan were both occupied by the US after WWII and not conicidentially, Japan and Germany are the second and third largest economies immediately following the US.

Germany declared war on us. Japan violated our sovereignty. They deserved everything that came to them. How many Iraqis and Afghans were on the planes on 9/11? Who planned the attacks? Sure wasn't Afghans or Iraqis...

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Originally posted by Krypton Gotta love that Afghani heroine on the streets of Europe.

is she cute?

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Originally posted by Krypton That's as if blacks in America only voted for blacks, whites for whites, asians for asians, latinos for latinos. Gee, wonder what kind of government that would be...

ive got news for you champ....

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Originally posted by Krypton And their constitution says, and I quote, "1st — Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation: (a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam." Great, an official religion. Oh, and no law can be passed that contradicts this religion. Seems to me the makings of an Islamic state. BRAVO BUSH/BLAIR BRAVO!!! Freedommmmmmmm!!!!!!

nobody said it was perfect. democracy often ends up like that. you make do with what you can.

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Originally posted by Krypton Germany declared war on us. Japan violated our sovereignty. They deserved everything that came to them. How many Iraqis and Afghans were on the planes on 9/11? Who planned the attacks? Sure wasn't Afghans or Iraqis...

this is fucking retarded. the taliban provided material support to al qaida. the country was basically in two parts, 1 controlled by the taliban and the other by al qaida.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN is she cute?

ass

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN ive got news for you champ.... nobody said it was perfect. democracy often ends up like that. you make do with what you can.

We'll be making due with an Islamic state......So much for "freedom"...

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this is fucking retarded. the taliban provided material support to al qaida. the country was basically in two parts, 1 controlled by the taliban and the other by al qaida.

So did the USA, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan. Should we be bombing ourselves? The Taliban were focused on taking complete control of country, which at the time, was still in a state of civil war. A failed state. What comes from failed states? Chaos. What thrives in chaos? Extremism. Terrorism. Militancy. The Taliban had no idea what Al-Qaeda was planning.

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Originally posted by Krypton Explain to me how that is an excuse to occupy their country? So in that case, we have a right to invade, Burma, North Korea, Sudan, China, and others, because they would have more rights under our subjigation than they would under their own rulers? Interesting logic...

i love how you always insert irrelevant fanciful situations to try and support yourself. We invaded Afghanistan for entirely justified reasons. We are occupying the country for two purposes: 1) to bring order and stability to the country (a very just reason), and 2) to continue the justified fight against the taliban and al qaeda.

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Originally posted by Krypton Germany declared war on us. Japan violated our sovereignty. They deserved everything that came to them. How many Iraqis and Afghans were on the planes on 9/11? Who planned the attacks? Sure wasn't Afghans or Iraqis...

Focus on the point. You keep saying 'occupation' like it only brings about bad things. Those are two clear examples of when occupation was a good thing. It doesn't matter how they came about; that's not the point.

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Originally posted by Krypton The Taliban had no idea what Al-Qaeda was planning.

you really believe that? If that was the case why didn't the taliban just give up Osama when it had the chance? You make enormous leaps in your logic, which leaves gaping holes.

well, i can see you've gone off the deep end of nonsense. i shall wait for your return to reality.

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