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Originally posted by Anas Attia im 100% sure thats not why he uses the synths and vocoders, there are other things out there that make your singing heavenly good. He used them because they work and offer much more flexibility, because hes moving with the times. The overall sound and feeling from a track is whats becoming more important than the artist himself, and he knows it. look at his new videos for example. ps EDM exists based on this theory. and believe me hes been looking to EDM for inspiration.

riiight so its not about the quality of the singing, just the image and music. Well let me tell you something. I think alot of kanye's tracks are great as long as kanye isnt in them. He murdered American boy. Thank god there is a non kanye version because its a great song without him.

I personally think that if you have a vocalist, they need to be strong if you are going to centre your attention on them. The difference between kanye and EDM is that with dance music the focus is on the producer and the singer is variable. When its vocorded or dubbed the singer rarely gets mentioned.

For example... Armand van helden presents Duane Harden

... and I love him to bits.

so insanely talented.

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Originally posted by VDub Kanye..."I wanna be Elvis" Jimmy Kimmel..."Kanye...you know Elvis died on the toilet with a jelly sandwich"

you owe me a rye and ginger!!! and not the one the one im cleaning off of my moniter

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Originally posted by Jayx1 riiight so its not about the quality of the singing, just the image and music. Well let me tell you something. I think alot of kanye's tracks are great as long as kanye isnt in them. He murdered American boy. Thank god there is a non kanye version because its a great song without him. I personally think that if you have a vocalist, they need to be strong if you are going to centre your attention on them. The difference between kanye and EDM is that with dance music the focus is on the producer and the singer is variable. When its vocorded or dubbed the singer rarely gets mentioned. For example... Armand van helden presents Duane Harden

well your sort of agreeing with me here, hes no longer centering the attention on his vocal ability but rather, using computers to get exactly what he wants out of a track. Also, when I think of Kanye I don't think rapper, I think producer.

to add to doubleAA's point...

Kanye has been calling himself a pop artist for quite some time now.

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he is hip hops last hope of a new wave of success. He is a gimmick, a 12 trick pony who happens to have real skill in a lifeless and tried style of music.
His greatest acheivement is not in one or two of his biggest hits but that he produces a pallatable enough brand of hip hop that pop radio and hot97 crowds enjoy.

I dont care for him only because he represents that whimsically whack new hip hop culture of flash, argyle and gucci print gangster sound that my mom sort of likes.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 he is hip hops last hope of a new wave of success. He is a gimmick, a 12 trick pony who happens to have real skill in a lifeless and tried style of music. His greatest acheivement is not in one or two of his biggest hits but that he produces a pallatable enough brand of hip hop that pop radio and hot97 crowds enjoy. I dont care for him only because he represents that whimsically whack new hip hop culture of flash, argyle and gucci print gangster sound that my mom sort of likes.

Your educated opinion.

I have faith. MJ made disco tracks as part of the jackson 5.
Eric Clapton was a fantastic guitarist in Cream.
Dave Grohl IS as important to Nirvana as Kirk.

Im aware it is not the same comparison, but for whatever reason I believe Kanye is an artist, and it is by coincidence not by design that his appeal crosses genres at this point. His music is not YET 'classic' or 'revolutionary'.

Now you have to admit that for someone who garners as much negative press for his arrogance and concietedness(sp?) he STILL receives critical acclaim after the most rediculous behaviour besides MJ having sleep overs with little kids.

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Originally posted by Zentac_75 Dave Grohl IS as important to Nirvana as Kirk.

Kirk? lawl :P

Nirvana = the most overrated band in rock history

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Originally posted by Monocle Kirk? lawl :P

OOPS!!!

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