Come on, she doesn't have to be moving.

Just ask my wife, it's a compromise I make all the time!


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what irks me the most about these pills is that people dont consider them a drug just because they are legal.

I know a few who quite doing drugs and started doing these pills... I really dont see a difference.

Regardless I think they should be classified under the same category as esctasy... they should be illegal.

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Originally posted by Intangible what irks me the most about these pills is that people dont consider them a drug just because they are legal. I know a few who quite doing drugs and started doing these pills... I really dont see a difference. Regardless I think they should be classified under the same category as esctasy... they should be illegal.

Should MDMA even be illegal? It has proven medical benefits...just like pot.

I am sure further studies will be made on these pills and the drugs contained in them and eventually they will be illegal.

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Originally posted by KaiLee granted you or your partner don't g out mid-shag

LOL...

Wouldn't be the first time...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

Its not an equal substitute to MDMA...its piperazines. It can be fun, euphoric and enjoyable, but its not MDMA.... its far speedier and with no real empathogenic qualities.

You'll see lots of pretty tracers and some neat CEV's and shit though, if your into that.

Some people also find them very dysphoric, and some cant tolerate the side effects, which are mainly neasua, gastric upset and headache. Expect a bit of a hang over and a generally shitty feeling as wears off and the day after.

Its not terrble, but its not as magic as MDMA.

IMO...its like a cross of amphetamine or methylphenidate with a weak/low dose of a typical serotogenic hallucingin (LSD for TFMPP and shroomy for PFPP...is the best I can roughly aproximate...as of course each drug is somewhat unique)

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Originally posted by Dj Gracjan i do agree with you guys on that, but the only thing that I agree with the pills is that everyone of them is made the same. Which is why I rather people do something that I know they will survive rather than taking a risk everytime

You can't discount cumulative effects of taking quite a few of them though. Just because you know what's in one and one won't hurt you doesn't mean 100 of them won't.

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Originally posted by VDub Makes it easy to get laid.........

bahahahaahahahaha!



if you need that to get laid my man...

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Originally posted by Skipper You can't discount cumulative effects of taking quite a few of them though. Just because you know what's in one and one won't hurt you doesn't mean 100 of them won't.

I'm definitely not saying they won't hurt your body. Obviously everything in today's society seems to be bad for us, but if we talk about moderation MAYBE this is better? maybe not? who knows!

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Ok, I have a real big issue with these pills.

Not only are they not safe, but they are imo less safe than one/some of the illegal substances they are meant to imitate.

Piperazines are known to cause some serious side effects. I've done my fair share of research (erowid, multiple forums, user reports) and found that these types of "legal" pills have sent a number of people TO THE HOSPITAL for kidney complications. These users did not "OD" but rather had a bad reaction to the piperazines and risked kidney failure.

Aside from this, most users have reported at least a moderate hangover with some reporting enough discomfort during or after to prevent them from wanting to partake again.

Personally, I wouldn't risk trying these after what I read...and this is coming from someone who isn't against illegal substances. If you are worried about "what's in your pill" then go buy a testing kit. These should never have been marketed as a "safe" alternative just because they were legal. After all, think of all the legal chemicals you could buy at the store that would harm you if you consumed them.

Too bad some people don't do their research. I guess the gov is trying to be their mommy.

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Originally posted by VDub Makes it easy to get laid.........

and there it is folks....




insight into Vdub's sex life

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