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Originally posted by geroin that's great and all but some people just cannot afford to spend at least 600 bucks for a set of winter tires even if it's an investment so they go for all season.

don't worry...soon it will be mandatory to have winter tires...I hope the Ontario Government will pay for my tires.

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I LOVE MY MICHELIN X-ICES!!!

(and the new Michelin X-Ice Xi2s which JUST came out are even MORE amazing! Fantastic new tire!!)

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Originally posted by geroin that's great and all but some people just cannot afford to spend at least 600 bucks for a set of winter tires even if it's an investment so they go for all season.

They make such a massive difference to driving safety and confidence in the winter. More than all-wheel drive, or any other fancy acronym feature that one's car comes with!

Winter tires FTW!

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Originally posted by geroin that's great and all but some people just cannot afford to spend at least 600 bucks for a set of winter tires even if it's an investment so they go for all season.

My $600 winter tires aleady saved me from one T-bone, and allowed me to pass cars uphills that turned around and said fuck-it, just this past month.

It's my guard against the idiots with only all-seasons on.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie My $600 winter tires

I got mine in January when sales were on. Got Michelin X-Ices + steelies at Cdn Tire for under $500.

And bc I got them at Cdn Tire and have my own set of rims for them, I get them changed seasonally by Cdn Tire for FREE!

Man I love my winter tires! <3

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It's my guard against the idiots with only all-seasons on.

Absolutely! The performance and peace of mind they provide me is key!

Cant say enough good things abt having proper winter tires on your vehicle!

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Originally posted by Abercrombie My $600 winter tires aleady saved me from one T-bone, and allowed me to pass cars uphills that turned around and said fuck-it, just this past month. It's my guard against the idiots with only all-seasons on.

all season tires can go uphill no problem in snow if they are relatively new, obviously if you've driven on them for 2 years then expect it to be ok in winter then that's stupid.
i'm not saying winter tires are a ripoff, i completely agree that in snow they are the best but some people just cannot afford to fork up 6bills for 4 new tires just for the winter. (especially in my case where i'm planning on getting rid of the car very soon so it would be a waste)

i got almost brand new all season tires and they are just fine in snow.. just have to be careful in snowy conditions. Having snow tires does not mean you can do whatever you want, you still have to be careful just like with the all season.

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Originally posted by denigade "snow tires" are made with a softer compound so you get better traction on cold asphalt, at lower temperatures the compound is soft enough to grip. Summer tires harden at colder temperatures so it would be like a hard plastic rolling on the asphalt, and you can guess what will happen when you hit the brakes on a car with summer tires in winter!! The "snow" part of snow tires are the aggressive tread pattern and depth, the softness doesn't help much on snow/ice.

Honestly, I've heard that the compound makes more of a difference on snow/ice than tread patterns.

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Originally posted by geroin but some people just cannot afford to fork up 6bills for 4 new tires just for the winter. (especially in my case where i'm planning on getting rid of the car very soon so it would be a waste)

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Typically, consumers that refuse to equip their vehicles with winter tires fall into one of two camps, the non-believers and the financially-sensitive. The non-believer, or what I like to refer to as the uninformed, are typically easy enough to convince with a test drive. The difference on dry, wet and icy roads between an all-season tire and a winter tire is so dramatic one attempt at the wheel usually has them running to their local tire supplier. The financially-sensitive can be a little more difficult to sway, but the safety benefits and economic sense of having two sets of tires can be convincing. The key point here is that with two sets of tires, each set will last longer. Add the potential cost of an accident and this can be enough financial motivation in itself. http://www.canadiandriver.com/winte...n-x-ice-xi2.php

Gotta say I agree w/ the second point if you view it from a purely economical stand point (discounting the fact that having the $600 in cash or on credit may be the issue it comes down to...)

If you buy winter tires, your all-seasons will last 2x longer, thus saving you money in tire replacement costs there.

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Originally posted by Shaya007 A Snow tire is simply the wrong term. Winter tire is the correct form that should be used.. I know since i got on a debate with an editor of a trucking magazine! lol!

So what. What makes this editor an authority on what a tire should or shouldn't be called? My belief is that it's a snow tire. They are designed for traction in the snow, and for any snow-related situations. If it just got cold out, we wouldn't use snow tires, we'd use all-season tires. People in California don't use winter tires, yet they have winter there.
It's a snow tire.

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Also, all-season tires are inadequate for Canadian winter. Period. It should be a law as far as I'm concerned. The up front cost is greater, but long-term there is a savings; plus it could save your life, or better, a trip to one of those annoying collision reporting centres.

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this is has been a requirement within my family. it's just necessary in Canada!

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Originally posted by misterpink If it just got cold out,

Well, we *should*.

Below 7oC all-seasons loose too much of their grip, traction and stopping ability. Their rubber compound simply gets too hard -- rendering them far less effective than in the other 3 seasons (besides winter) where its often above 7oC most of the time.

Thats why they are generally called by auto enthusiasts and individuals that work in auto-related occupations as "winter tires" ... bc snow isnt the only requirement that requires the need for them to be place on one's car. The cold temperatures are very much factors too.

Winter tire (since it encompasses both factors "the cold" and "snow" in our more northerly area of NA, is thus why they are referred to as that when you go to ur tire shop or your dealership looking to buy them.

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