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Originally posted by sot again, another thing that's been reiterated a thousand times.... it's now what gear you have, it's how you use it effectively. you could have a million dollar studio and still suck and honestly i see alot of guys on either gearslutz, here etc, have thousands of dollars worth of equipment and their tracks still sound like shit. i used to be like "omg what gear does so and so use and how does it sound so good". the answer is that person knows their setup real well and knows exactly how to utilize it in a way to make their tracks sound the way they do. know. your. gear.

I was going to reply with more or less exactly what you said but I couldnt be bother as its been said before. But yeah +1 on all that - Ive always thought the same

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Originally posted by almar that one in the picture is a Mac?? can't really figure it out

It's a Dell Inspiron

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Whilst I agree that its not what you have but how you use it, I find it incredibly hard to believe that all prydz' tunes are made on just a crappy laptop and headphones. The production quality of some of his tracks is excellent, some of the best out there. Not in terms of complexity but in terms of power, punch, bass and warmth.

I'd suspect that he maybe sketches out the arrangement and basic sounds of each track on his laptop THEN takes it into the studio with god knows what gear to produce the final sounds we hear.

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He sends his finished tracks to a mastering house. Maybe he even sends all the individual stems too, so the mastering guys can get the best result possible.

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Originally posted by G-Con Whilst I agree that its not what you have but how you use it, I find it incredibly hard to believe that all prydz' tunes are made on just a crappy laptop and headphones. The production quality of some of his tracks is excellent, some of the best out there. Not in terms of complexity but in terms of power, punch, bass and warmth. I'd suspect that he maybe sketches out the arrangement and basic sounds of each track on his laptop THEN takes it into the studio with god knows what gear to produce the final sounds we hear.

Dont forget that he is playing out a lot and therefore has the opportunity to test any new stuff on a big soundsystem......

Also mastering is only the finishing touches, its all in the mixdown

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Originally posted by evo8 Dont forget that he is playing out a lot and therefore has the opportunity to test any new stuff on a big soundsystem...... Also mastering is only the finishing touches, its all in the mixdown

I never mentioned mastering...

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Originally posted by G-Con I never mentioned mastering...

I'd say evo8 was responding to Beyer in terms of the comment about mastering.

But overall, a lot of this stuff gets really murky when it's not straight from the source.

Maybe he gets his stuff sounding like that on his laptop and it goes straight into the clubs without any extra processing like mastering (there are people who believe this is impossible and will laugh at the thought).

Maybe he sketches out his ideas on the laptop, then builds the tracks from the ground up in a massive studio with every bit of expensive gear imaginable, after which the stems go to some of the world's best mastering houses and the best mix is then chosen for release.


In the end, as has been stated many, many times, it's about getting to know your gear and your sound. Some people can create an amazing sound with a laptop and plugins. Some people can create an amazing sound with expensive hardware. It's not about what you use, it's about the end result, the music.

I don't see it as hardware vs software. I happily use both, and would find it unfortunate to be limited to one or the other because of some ideological conviction. There are so many great tools out there, both hardware and software.

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Originally posted by derail I'd say evo8 was responding to Beyer in terms of the comment about mastering.

yip shoulda said

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Originally posted by derail I'd say evo8 was responding to Beyer in terms of the comment about mastering. But overall, a lot of this stuff gets really murky when it's not straight from the source. Maybe he gets his stuff sounding like that on his laptop and it goes straight into the clubs without any extra processing like mastering (there are people who believe this is impossible and will laugh at the thought). Maybe he sketches out his ideas on the laptop, then builds the tracks from the ground up in a massive studio with every bit of expensive gear imaginable, after which the stems go to some of the world's best mastering houses and the best mix is then chosen for release. In the end, as has been stated many, many times, it's about getting to know your gear and your sound. Some people can create an amazing sound with a laptop and plugins. Some people can create an amazing sound with expensive hardware. It's not about what you use, it's about the end result, the music. I don't see it as hardware vs software. I happily use both, and would find it unfortunate to be limited to one or the other because of some ideological conviction. There are so many great tools out there, both hardware and software.

actually i think someone on this site did and interview with Eric, and he went through some aspects of his production, i think i remember him talking about choosing the right elements to create space etc etc.. ill see if i can dig up from the search

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found it

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Eric: I would say nowadays, 80% of my tracks I make on my laptop with a pair of headphones. That's it. Or maybe 70% because I'm traveling so much, and I rarely have any time to spend in the studio. The laptop I'm using is an old crappy PC from 2004. I mean it was kind of state of the art back then; it's kind of a custom made laptop from Frost Network, which is made for making music on it basically. It's running a really old version of Logic. I think it's 5.2 or something like that. But I sort of like being limited, because then you... I don't know. Instead of trying to figure out how all the synthesizers work, you can work with a few instruments and try to make as much as possible out of that. As for my studio, I'm running a Macintosh with Logic 7, and like wavs, plugins, and I do have the Korg bundle as well. And then, I have one synthesizer I think which is a Korg MS-2000. I think it's MS-2000B. It's the new version. It's the one with the vocoder thing. Apart from that I don't have anything. It's like microphone preamps, microphones, stuff like that. But as I said before, I really like to keep the setup as small and compact as possible. It's not really what kind of fancy equipment you have, it's how you use the stuff that you actually have, you know. And I'm doing fine with the small setup I have, and I don't have any plans of getting a big show off studio. I don't need that

thanks for the find this was the exact paragraph i was talking about

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Originally posted by G-Con Whilst I agree that its not what you have but how you use it, I find it incredibly hard to believe that all prydz' tunes are made on just a crappy laptop and headphones. The production quality of some of his tracks is excellent, some of the best out there. Not in terms of complexity but in terms of power, punch, bass and warmth. I'd suspect that he maybe sketches out the arrangement and basic sounds of each track on his laptop THEN takes it into the studio with god knows what gear to produce the final sounds we hear.

lol now you know. I could believe it to be honest if yu know something well enough you can make great sounds.