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Originally posted by Lana What about the Behringer XM8500? In many (well almost all) reviews say that the Behringer XM8500 mic is good as SM58... Any comments? The price is so cheap compared to the Shure mic

Behringer. DO I really have to say more

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Originally posted by kitphillips Behringer. DO I really have to say more

Ermm... Is that good or bad?
So yeah, it would be nice if you could say more

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Originally posted by Lana Ermm... Is that good or bad? So yeah, it would be nice if you could say more

behringer is known for being shit quality. I however disagree everything from them i have owned has been pretty good quality. The mic probably not as good as the sm58. Cryophonik has more experience recording things than most people on these forums so his recommendations are probably pretty sound.

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Cryophonic definately knows his stuff, so I'm wondering why he's recommending condensers in this case? There might be something I'm missing....

And I would not bother with a behringer anything, unless its for live use and ery utilitarian, like DIs or something. For recording, they aren't up to scratch for professional use at all IMO.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Cryophonic definately knows his stuff, so I'm wondering why he's recommending condensers in this case? There might be something I'm missing.... And I would not bother with a behringer anything, unless its for live use and ery utilitarian, like DIs or something. For recording, they aren't up to scratch for professional use at all IMO.

I am also bit confused about the condenser recommendations since many places it is said that condenser type of mic is not good for a home studio (since there are usually all sort of background noises)

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Originally posted by kitphillips Cryophonic definately knows his stuff, so I'm wondering why he's recommending condensers in this case?

Unless you're doing rap (with lots of intentional plosives) or anything that requires screaming into the mic, dynamic mics like the SM57/58 are not as good for recording, generally speaking, as condensers are. Dynamic mics can handle the high SPLs that they'd be exposed to using the aforementioned vocal styles, but they are not as accurate or as sensitive to transients as condenser mics are. Condenser mics are generally much better for recording because of their sensitivity, accuracy, and their ability to capture the details of a recording. And, regarding the use of condensers vs. dynamics in a noisy home studio, I still prefer using condensers. Yeah, it's true there's usually a lot more noise in those environments and the sensitive condenser mics are better at picking up that noise, but remember - it's the signal:noise ratio (SNR) that matters, not just the noise itself. So, minimize the noise in your studio, use proper microphone techniques, and follow proper gain-stage protocols and the noise should be a non-issue. These are true regardless of which mic you're using.

While we're at it, here are a few tips that you may want to consider for reducing noise:

- make sure ceiling fans are off
- turn your phones/ringers off (yeah, I forget this one all the time - duh!)
- make sure AC/furnace vents and windows are closed
- use a cardioid/hypercardioid mic and try to position any noise sources (e.g., computers) to the rear of the mic so the noise is not picked up
- position other sources of noise behind the vocalist/performer to block unwanted noise, if necessary
- try using a filter (e.g., sE Reflexion, Ethan Winer's PVB, etc.) to minimize reflections from behind the mic - they alsow block some of the noise originating from behind and to the side of the mic
- send your girlfriend, wife, kids, family, roommates, pets, etc. out shopping and/or drinking for a few hours

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Yeah I guess theres some truth to that. Condensers are more sensitive, which may be a good thing or a bad thing.

I personally have a bit of a problem with road noise and reflections though, as well as a pretty deep and mellow sort of voice, so thats why I'm looking at dynamics more than condensers. I guess its really just a matter of what works best for your voice. I suspect that unless you've got a pretty decent preamp it probably doesn't matter too much what you have in the mic department...

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Thanks for all the advices

I think I am going for the dynamic mic...
The condenser mics are bit too expensive and in many places the dynamics are said to be better fit for a homes tudio.

I am thinking about buying a Shure SM58!
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I much prefer the sound of a good condenser mic. If using in a bedroom studio use the most directional polar pattern the mic has (cardioid, hyper-cardioid)
Try using the mics high-pass filter if it has one.

SM58s are ok, much better for live use and recording guitar in my opinion. They are not as sensitive and are highly directional.

In either case if you havn't got a good pre-amp they will both sound crap anyway.

Also a pop shield or wind sheild is a must for getting rid of plosives, without one you will have to use different mic placement techniques which will result in more noise, less bass etc etc.

Also watch out for the proximity effect.

I much prefer the sound of a good condenser mic. If using in a bedroom studio use the most directional polar pattern the mic has (cardioid, hyper-cardioid)
Try using the mics high-pass filter if it has one.

SM58s are ok, much better for live use and recording guitar in my opinion. They are not as sensitive and are highly directional.

In either case if you havn't got a good pre-amp they will both sound crap anyway.

Also a pop shield or wind sheild is a must for getting rid of plosives, without one you will have to use different mic placement techniques which will result in more noise, less bass etc etc.

Also watch out for the proximity effect.