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FunkyCrew
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Registered: Feb 2006
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where there is demand, there is supply

I don't think they should be punished THAT severely - some people are just naturally crafty.. I know it's unfair (I personally paid $60K+ for my 4 years in York as an international student), but ce la vie..
you guys would shocked if you lived in Russia or any other post-Soviet country.. people buy degress/driver's licenses/PhD degrees left and right like there's no tomorrow


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Old Post Dec-15-2008 17:44  Ukraine
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Vanos
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funkycrew are you related to sarah palin?

Old Post Dec-15-2008 19:21  Ukraine
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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
you guys would shocked if you lived in Russia or any other post-Soviet country.. people buy degress/driver's licenses/PhD degrees left and right like there's no tomorrow

Nope, but we are shocked that it is happening here. That is part of the reason people live here, and trust the people who live here. We have standards that are verified. Same shit happens in India, that is why post-secondary education is useless some developing countries.



Let's keep the phony degrees in developing countries, and keep our standards high. Throw the bums in jail, and make a simple little website stating who has bought one of these certificates.

Old Post Dec-15-2008 19:28  India
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FunkyCrew
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Registered: Feb 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Vanos
funkycrew are you related to sarah palin?


if you gonna tell me I look like her I'll punch you in the nutsack

quote:
Originally posted by Orko


I know, but what I meant to say that I tend to look at this with a pinch of salt so to speak


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Old Post Dec-15-2008 19:42  Ukraine
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fullhouse
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: MTL . Hop la TO

quote:
Originally posted by evil_cookie
faking something like a Ph.D is not "lil experience".


quote:
Originally posted by fullhouse
you got big timers and small timers in everything


you guys are pissed in an egocentric fashion

just cause one guy got what u got without sacrificing what u sacrificed
why should he do time?
like someone said previously, they just got crafty

its the system that's faulty, not the people

kinda fucking mind boggling that people can fake a paper and get to train police and rcmp...

DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME

and for the record, your issue isnt with him faking a degree

ultimately its about him making more money then u

(ok maybe theres the status also if he fished a phd

but usually its to score those JOB$$$$$$ (lol@whitehouse dude) )

but lets be real...are these the only guys making money the easy way?

Old Post Dec-15-2008 19:50  Lesotho
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xxrompxx
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by fullhouse
its the system that's faulty, not the people


I would agree. The educational system that is.

If all you have is a fake university degree and your employers can't tell, it probably means people aren't taught at university what they're required to know at work.

Fuck, why spend 4 years and $32,000 studying some shit anyone with a fake degree(and little to no knowledge) can do?

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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto

hate the game, not the players?

that's complete fucking bullshit. so they guy who buys/obtains fake ID shouldn't be at all held accountible, if caught...only the guy who made/sold it?

that's *absurd*

and it's 100% irrelevant if the degree is "necessary" to do the job.

the applicant knowingly misrepresented themselves on their resume/application and KNOWINGLY engaged in illegal behaviour by purchasing fraudulent documentation.

they should therefore be punished accordingly. end of story.

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fullhouse
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Registered: Mar 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
hate the game, not the players?

that's complete fucking bullshit. so they guy who buys/obtains fake ID shouldn't be at all held accountible, if caught...only the guy who made/sold it?

that's *absurd*

and it's 100% irrelevant if the degree is "necessary" to do the job.

the applicant knowingly misrepresented themselves on their resume/application and KNOWINGLY engaged in illegal behaviour by purchasing fraudulent documentation.

they should therefore be punished accordingly. end of story.


no doubt they should be punished

but locked up is pushing it...

if they're doing it, it's because they CAN

if they CAN, there will ALWAYS be people doing it

if 'professionals' would go through the trouble of verifying authenticity

they COULD NOT forge ANYTHING

there's a reason why archives exist: to be put to use

if the people who should be doing it don't do it

i would fire them and charge them as accomplices

THEY are the REAL fucking idiots

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Abercrombie
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quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
where there is demand, there is supply

I don't think they should be punished THAT severely - some people are just naturally crafty.. I know it's unfair (I personally paid $60K+ for my 4 years in York as an international student), but ce la vie..
you guys would shocked if you lived in Russia or any other post-Soviet country.. people buy degress/driver's licenses/PhD degrees left and right like there's no tomorrow


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zoogla
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quote:
Originally posted by fullhouse
you guys are pissed in an egocentric fashion

lol wtf does that mean.

newsflash: THIS IS FRAUD and should be treated as a criminal offence.

ps. do us all a favour and return the degree you bought, fraudster

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fullhouse
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Registered: Mar 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by fayraree
lol wtf does that mean.

newsflash: THIS IS FRAUD and should be treated as a criminal offence.

ps. do us all a favour and return the degree you bought, fraudster



ok i'll break it down real quick and precise to avoid having to mention it a 3rd time
(even though you all get shivers when you read my posts)

egocentric etymologically defined relates the self with a revolving point
once you have begun to fully comprehend the extent of the previous explanation,
and only then, will you be able to establish a relation between it
and the word fashion
fashion in this context wouldn't require a definition
as it is synonymous to many other simple concept words
such as "way"


"you are pissed in an egocentric fashion":
posters took the aforementioned rupture of the law personally
i don't see many people pissed at crack dealers
these guys are just as much criminals as the degree fraudsters
they are pissed because they worked for something that others got without the work

by you saying "do us all a favor"

you are only proving my point:
you are annoyed that your status is accessible to others
that is snob, and sad

is that what it takes to compromise ur integrity?

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evil_cookie
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